men in the top tiers of attractiveness are, in all likelihood, severely underrepresented among those practicing explicit “card-carrying” polyamory.
Why?
I know several incredibly attractive men in the poly community; my sample is small enough that I can’t say such men are over-represented in the poly community, but I would be very surprised if your assumption were correct.
I would guess that Vladimir_M is using attractiveness in a broader sense than merely physical. Since power, wealth and status are important components of attractiveness for most women when judging men and since being openly polyamorous would be somewhat problematic for men in many traditionally high status positions it is likely that they will be underrepresented. They are also likely to be overrepresented in non-open / non-consensual non-monogamy.
I was likewise using attractiveness in that broader sense. I can’t speak to wealth, but the poly subculture contains men with plenty of power and status within the poly subculture. Status only has meaning within a particular social context; evaluating a poly man’s status in the context of the greater monogamous culture is no more meaningful than evaluating a monogamous man’s status in the poly subculture. It’s apples and oranges.
I’m not sure of Vladimir’s reasoning, but I might speculate that men at the top tiers of attractiveness don’t even need to join the poly community to have multiple partners.
Furthermore, being poly may have certain correlates (e.g. geekiness) that are only attractive to subsets of the female population (e.g. the subset that is poly).
I’m not sure of Vladimir’s reasoning, but I might speculate that men at the top tiers of attractiveness don’t even need to join the poly community to have multiple partners.
Furthermore, being poly may have certain correlates (e.g. geekiness) that are only attractive to subsets of the female population (e.g. the subset that is poly).
Yes, that’s pretty much what I had in mind. For a man of very high attractiveness, becoming a card-carrying polyamorist is a deal that brings no real benefit for the cost. Such men already have a rich array of options in which they’ll have the upper hand, including polygynous arrangements.
men at the top tiers of attractiveness don’t even need to join the poly community to have multiple partners.
As I understand it, polyamory is having multiple committed relationships, not just multiple partners. I don’t think having multiple partners is limited to only the “top tiers of attractiveness” for men; I think it’s fairly common.
I doubt anyone joins the poly community just to have multiple partners; it seems like way too much work building relationships for that, when you could just find friends with benefits. Someone who just wanted multiple partners would likely not bother; however, people who have been in successful poly relationships likely have a lot of experience and practice in dealing with sex and emotions and managing relationships, which would increase their attractiveness.
Why?
I know several incredibly attractive men in the poly community; my sample is small enough that I can’t say such men are over-represented in the poly community, but I would be very surprised if your assumption were correct.
I would guess that Vladimir_M is using attractiveness in a broader sense than merely physical. Since power, wealth and status are important components of attractiveness for most women when judging men and since being openly polyamorous would be somewhat problematic for men in many traditionally high status positions it is likely that they will be underrepresented. They are also likely to be overrepresented in non-open / non-consensual non-monogamy.
I was likewise using attractiveness in that broader sense. I can’t speak to wealth, but the poly subculture contains men with plenty of power and status within the poly subculture. Status only has meaning within a particular social context; evaluating a poly man’s status in the context of the greater monogamous culture is no more meaningful than evaluating a monogamous man’s status in the poly subculture. It’s apples and oranges.
Your definition of attractiveness makes no sense in the context of Vladimir_M’s post.
I’m not sure of Vladimir’s reasoning, but I might speculate that men at the top tiers of attractiveness don’t even need to join the poly community to have multiple partners.
Furthermore, being poly may have certain correlates (e.g. geekiness) that are only attractive to subsets of the female population (e.g. the subset that is poly).
HughRistik:
Yes, that’s pretty much what I had in mind. For a man of very high attractiveness, becoming a card-carrying polyamorist is a deal that brings no real benefit for the cost. Such men already have a rich array of options in which they’ll have the upper hand, including polygynous arrangements.
As I understand it, polyamory is having multiple committed relationships, not just multiple partners. I don’t think having multiple partners is limited to only the “top tiers of attractiveness” for men; I think it’s fairly common.
I doubt anyone joins the poly community just to have multiple partners; it seems like way too much work building relationships for that, when you could just find friends with benefits. Someone who just wanted multiple partners would likely not bother; however, people who have been in successful poly relationships likely have a lot of experience and practice in dealing with sex and emotions and managing relationships, which would increase their attractiveness.