In my experience, you can say no to drama all you like, but sometimes it comes around anyway, and to care for those you love sometimes you just have to deal with it!
“Deal with” is not necessarily equal to “get involved in”, though. The “saying no” in this case would be saying no to the latter, rather than the former.
The only sure-fire way I know of to deal with a romantic partner intent on involving me in drama is to sever the romantic relationship. For me, that works—after a few false starts, I’m with a girl who always cooperates in tracing our rare disagreements back to a root difference in either factual beliefs or values, and resolves it with wikipedia or compromises, respectively. But my approach strikes some people as unrealistically draconian.
Is there a more subtle set of skills than “only become involved with rational people?”
Is there a more subtle set of skills than “only become involved with rational people?”
Yes. ;-)
If you’re seriously interested in learning them, I suggest David Deida’s book “Way of The Superior Man” as a conceptual primer, and the AMP “inner game” video series as practical illustration and coaching. Note, however, that the skills in question are more about maintaining your own emotional state and connection to your partner, than about getting anybody else to behave in a certain way.
As the AMP people point out, men’s response to drama is often to close themselves off from their caring, in order not to get sucked in to emotional turmoil—but this is just as bad for the relationship as it is to get sucked in or to give up/give in. Their training approach is to make it possible for you to stay open and connected, without being sucked in, giving up, or closing off.
It is not easy, but it is very rewarding. Initially, the tough part is that you go through a period of getting more drama in your relationship, because as your partner realizes it’s “safe” to express things emotionally, she may increase her expressiveness. I personally went through a rather trying period where my wife kept exceeding my then-current level of skills. ;-)
However, once you really “get it”, then what happens is that it’s like a storm that breaks over you and then goes calm, and there’s much more connection and passion there than there was in the flat, no-drama-at-all state, where I was trying to control situations to prevent drama from arising in the first place.
One of the hardest lessons I’ve learned is, to use a more colloquial phrase, “don’t stick your dick in crazy,” which is just another phrasing of your suggested approach. If there’s a better way to handle the drama problem, I haven’t found it.
I’m unsure of all the various types of drama that folks may be referring to, but by being more accepting and comfortable with various behaviors, one can decrease the (emergence of) drama in their life.
The question is then, which situations are you comfortable with, able to change to be comfortable with, and willing to change to be comfortable with? I don’t mean to imply that saying “no” on the third question is necessarily bad in any way.
“Deal with” is not necessarily equal to “get involved in”, though. The “saying no” in this case would be saying no to the latter, rather than the former.
The only sure-fire way I know of to deal with a romantic partner intent on involving me in drama is to sever the romantic relationship. For me, that works—after a few false starts, I’m with a girl who always cooperates in tracing our rare disagreements back to a root difference in either factual beliefs or values, and resolves it with wikipedia or compromises, respectively. But my approach strikes some people as unrealistically draconian.
Is there a more subtle set of skills than “only become involved with rational people?”
Yes. ;-)
If you’re seriously interested in learning them, I suggest David Deida’s book “Way of The Superior Man” as a conceptual primer, and the AMP “inner game” video series as practical illustration and coaching. Note, however, that the skills in question are more about maintaining your own emotional state and connection to your partner, than about getting anybody else to behave in a certain way.
As the AMP people point out, men’s response to drama is often to close themselves off from their caring, in order not to get sucked in to emotional turmoil—but this is just as bad for the relationship as it is to get sucked in or to give up/give in. Their training approach is to make it possible for you to stay open and connected, without being sucked in, giving up, or closing off.
It is not easy, but it is very rewarding. Initially, the tough part is that you go through a period of getting more drama in your relationship, because as your partner realizes it’s “safe” to express things emotionally, she may increase her expressiveness. I personally went through a rather trying period where my wife kept exceeding my then-current level of skills. ;-)
However, once you really “get it”, then what happens is that it’s like a storm that breaks over you and then goes calm, and there’s much more connection and passion there than there was in the flat, no-drama-at-all state, where I was trying to control situations to prevent drama from arising in the first place.
One of the hardest lessons I’ve learned is, to use a more colloquial phrase, “don’t stick your dick in crazy,” which is just another phrasing of your suggested approach. If there’s a better way to handle the drama problem, I haven’t found it.
I’m unsure of all the various types of drama that folks may be referring to, but by being more accepting and comfortable with various behaviors, one can decrease the (emergence of) drama in their life.
The question is then, which situations are you comfortable with, able to change to be comfortable with, and willing to change to be comfortable with? I don’t mean to imply that saying “no” on the third question is necessarily bad in any way.
I highly recommend your method, and don’t know of another method that I find palatable.