So, I can kind of get this to make sense if I assume that good pick-up advice acts against the best interests of women… which, now that I think about it, is consistent with your other comments on the subject.
Sure, if that’s true, and if feminists are interested in advancing the interests of women (which seems likely), then it follows that feminists giving pick-up advice is a conflict of interest, as you say.
Of course, men who consider themselves pick-up artists giving pick-up advice is also a conflict of interest, in that they presumably consider themselves in competition with their advisees for resources.
But perhaps, as you suggest, the conflict of interest in the second case is less overwhelming.
And your equation of feminists with female authority figures suggests that you consider those sets entirely disjoint… that is, that there are no feminist men, at least not in this context.
And if I additionally assume, as you seem to here, that I have to choose—that is, that I can either learn from feminists, or learn from soi-disant PUAs, but I can’t do both -- then it follows from all that that I should not seek out pick-up advice from feminists.
OK, I think I understand. Thanks for the clarification.
I don’t accept any of that as especially representative of any position I put forward and do not wish to engage in discourse of the style you are using.
There may be those here who appreciate my comment—I will leave them to do so or not based on their own perspectives.
So, I can kind of get this to make sense if I assume that good pick-up advice acts against the best interests of women… which, now that I think about it, is consistent with your other comments on the subject.
Sure, if that’s true, and if feminists are interested in advancing the interests of women (which seems likely), then it follows that feminists giving pick-up advice is a conflict of interest, as you say.
Of course, men who consider themselves pick-up artists giving pick-up advice is also a conflict of interest, in that they presumably consider themselves in competition with their advisees for resources.
But perhaps, as you suggest, the conflict of interest in the second case is less overwhelming.
And your equation of feminists with female authority figures suggests that you consider those sets entirely disjoint… that is, that there are no feminist men, at least not in this context.
And if I additionally assume, as you seem to here, that I have to choose—that is, that I can either learn from feminists, or learn from soi-disant PUAs, but I can’t do both -- then it follows from all that that I should not seek out pick-up advice from feminists.
OK, I think I understand. Thanks for the clarification.
I don’t accept any of that as especially representative of any position I put forward and do not wish to engage in discourse of the style you are using.
There may be those here who appreciate my comment—I will leave them to do so or not based on their own perspectives.
All right.
If at some later time you choose to clarify what I got wrong there, I’ll be interested.