If I live in a place where I can choose between a standard mix of electricity sources consisting of hydrocarbons, nuclear and renewables, and a “green” mix of renewables exclusively that costs more, should I buy the green mix or buy the cheaper/cheapest mix and donate the difference to GiveWell?
Would it be better for you to pay for a neighbor of yours to switch to the green mix or give that money to GiveWell?
Is there something special about the energy you use coming from renewable sources as opposed to the energy someone else uses?
For the first question, subsidising renewable energy is probably a good thing, but there’s no reason to expect this particular opportunity to be up there with the world’s best organizations. For the second it doesn’t seem to me that it matters. So I’d say buy the normal stuff and give the difference to the best organization you can find.
In Germany I’m not sure that you increase the amount of green energy that get produced by making a choice to be on a plan that “uses” green energy.
The German energy market isn’t free in the sense that you can raise demand for green energy to raise supply of green energy.
We have laws that everyone who wants to sell green energy into the market gets a gurantee that the energy is brought for a decent price.
To answer the OP question: I’m not an EA-specialist, but I think that depends on your goals. If you agree with the version of utilitarianism that most EAs hold, buying the cheapest mix and donating the difference to GiveWell is best. If the goal of promoting renewable energy in your country is of similar importance as improving living conditions in developing countries, you should find out if in your country, solutions which actually cause investment in green energy exist and then buy those (the most effective solution would probably be to buy 100% renewable energy from depreciated hydroelectric plants and directly invest the difference in cost to higher-quality labels in green energy projects, but I assume this option isn’t available to you).
The certified electricity is usually from hydroelectric power plants which are already 100% depreciated and don’t get any surplus from the renewable energy levy.
I don’t think those hydroelectric power plants would shut down when nobody would pay a premium for green energy.
Yes, that’s correct. This is why I stated market knowledge is neccessary—if you decide to buy a plan where this kind of energy is supported, you don’t reach your goal of heightening the production of renewable energy. The first paragraph was intended as an intro that shows the pit falls. I’m sorry if that wasn’t clear.
A question for specialists on EA.
If I live in a place where I can choose between a standard mix of electricity sources consisting of hydrocarbons, nuclear and renewables, and a “green” mix of renewables exclusively that costs more, should I buy the green mix or buy the cheaper/cheapest mix and donate the difference to GiveWell?
I’d break this down into two questions:
Would it be better for you to pay for a neighbor of yours to switch to the green mix or give that money to GiveWell?
Is there something special about the energy you use coming from renewable sources as opposed to the energy someone else uses?
For the first question, subsidising renewable energy is probably a good thing, but there’s no reason to expect this particular opportunity to be up there with the world’s best organizations. For the second it doesn’t seem to me that it matters. So I’d say buy the normal stuff and give the difference to the best organization you can find.
Perhaps you meant hydrocarbons instead of carbohydrates.
Indeed, I run on carbohydrates, not my computer.
In Germany I’m not sure that you increase the amount of green energy that get produced by making a choice to be on a plan that “uses” green energy. The German energy market isn’t free in the sense that you can raise demand for green energy to raise supply of green energy.
We have laws that everyone who wants to sell green energy into the market gets a gurantee that the energy is brought for a decent price.
You can do so, but it takes market knowledge to find such a plan. There are several plans that offer 100% renewable energy, usually certified in some way (example: http://www.tuev-nord.de/cps/rde/xbcr/SID-7251F8DB-F18E650D/tng_de/kriterienkatalog-oekostrom.pdf). The certified electricity is usually from hydroelectric power plants which are already 100% depreciated and don’t get any surplus from the renewable energy levy.
However, there are some plans (for example http://www.gruenerstromlabel.de/english/) that come at a higher price, but also pay for installing new renewable power.
To answer the OP question: I’m not an EA-specialist, but I think that depends on your goals. If you agree with the version of utilitarianism that most EAs hold, buying the cheapest mix and donating the difference to GiveWell is best. If the goal of promoting renewable energy in your country is of similar importance as improving living conditions in developing countries, you should find out if in your country, solutions which actually cause investment in green energy exist and then buy those (the most effective solution would probably be to buy 100% renewable energy from depreciated hydroelectric plants and directly invest the difference in cost to higher-quality labels in green energy projects, but I assume this option isn’t available to you).
I don’t think those hydroelectric power plants would shut down when nobody would pay a premium for green energy.
Yes, that’s correct. This is why I stated market knowledge is neccessary—if you decide to buy a plan where this kind of energy is supported, you don’t reach your goal of heightening the production of renewable energy. The first paragraph was intended as an intro that shows the pit falls. I’m sorry if that wasn’t clear.