Outside view: data suggests that conscientiousness is the least impacted of the big 5 by meditation (neither up nor down). Inside view: I think that motivation to whip yourself decreases, but at the same time the intrinsic suffering of just doing things goes down, so it nets out to zero. The idea being that normally we create internal suffering to ‘get us to do’ something that involves external suffering.
He spells his first name “Jeffery”, that’s likely why. The Finders is the book title.
I’ve read that book, and a fair amount dovetails well with my current existence, but quite a bit of it doesn’t. Strange that I cannot find a community of fellow Finders anywhere on da interwebz happily discussing how their lives are with each other and comparing notes and etc.-most Googling of the (correct) name and book title simply brings up a bunch of people going off about the author’s course.
Anyway, I get frustrated with a lot of Buddhist thought & discussion on the ’net, and this one is no exception (the companion entries occ. get rezzed here as well note). Nobody ever discusses what happens if you reverse the polarities, so to speak, and, instead of egoic cravings, you allow the will of the universe to flow through you. Wu wei. [we need some Taoist entries actually in point of fact]
Where does authentic creativity and selfless manifestation lie in this wasteland of viciously craving beings? It’s always ascension, all of the time, forsake forsake forsake. I feel that this singleminded focus on suffering and craving, and transcending such, just leaves a LOT out of the picture. For me (having-mostly-mastered my emotional world) it’s like reading a 3rd grade primer, when I hunger for graduate level work.
For example, if these craving beings were to TRULY experience real, unmediated, 100% pure A-grade ecstasy, they wouldn’t embrace it, they would flee in terror from it. I am well nigh convinced that the problem doesn’t like with attachment, but with fear of actual transcendence, and the cravings and such are simply side-effects of the core issue there.
It may be that the number/% of authentic Finders is much less than the number of self-proclaimed ones (and don’t take my word here either, nuke the Buddha with an RPG).
Outside view: data suggests that conscientiousness is the least impacted of the big 5 by meditation (neither up nor down). Inside view: I think that motivation to whip yourself decreases, but at the same time the intrinsic suffering of just doing things goes down, so it nets out to zero. The idea being that normally we create internal suffering to ‘get us to do’ something that involves external suffering.
Interesting! Can you recommend me any good reading about how meditation interacts with the Big 5 personality traits?
I got this from Jeffrey Martin’s dataset iirc. His book is a bit all over the place though.
Which book is that? I tried to search and found several authors with that name and variants of it.
The finders. The original paper is available online though.
Thanks! Apparently his first name is spelled Jeffery.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/44019415-the-finders
He spells his first name “Jeffery”, that’s likely why. The Finders is the book title.
I’ve read that book, and a fair amount dovetails well with my current existence, but quite a bit of it doesn’t. Strange that I cannot find a community of fellow Finders anywhere on da interwebz happily discussing how their lives are with each other and comparing notes and etc.-most Googling of the (correct) name and book title simply brings up a bunch of people going off about the author’s course.
Anyway, I get frustrated with a lot of Buddhist thought & discussion on the ’net, and this one is no exception (the companion entries occ. get rezzed here as well note). Nobody ever discusses what happens if you reverse the polarities, so to speak, and, instead of egoic cravings, you allow the will of the universe to flow through you. Wu wei. [we need some Taoist entries actually in point of fact]
Where does authentic creativity and selfless manifestation lie in this wasteland of viciously craving beings? It’s always ascension, all of the time, forsake forsake forsake. I feel that this singleminded focus on suffering and craving, and transcending such, just leaves a LOT out of the picture. For me (having-mostly-mastered my emotional world) it’s like reading a 3rd grade primer, when I hunger for graduate level work.
For example, if these craving beings were to TRULY experience real, unmediated, 100% pure A-grade ecstasy, they wouldn’t embrace it, they would flee in terror from it. I am well nigh convinced that the problem doesn’t like with attachment, but with fear of actual transcendence, and the cravings and such are simply side-effects of the core issue there.
It may be that the number/% of authentic Finders is much less than the number of self-proclaimed ones (and don’t take my word here either, nuke the Buddha with an RPG).
Thanks.
As for a community, have you tried r/StreamEntry on Reddit? There might be some. I don’t know. I am no Finder.