I feel like the first two are enforceable with culture. For example I think many Muslim countries have a lot of success at preventing pornography (or at least, they did until the internet, which notably dath ilan seems to not quite have). I also have a sense that many people with severe mental/physical disabilities are implicitly treated as though they won’t have children in our culture, and as a result often do not. But I agree it’s hard to do it ethically, and both of the aforementioned ways aren’t done very ethically in our civilization IMO.
For the latter, remember, Eliezer says he’s an average guy in dath ilan. I think there are loads of ideas the average person on Earth hasn’t heard about that are world-shaking and that only get discussed in quiet corners, like iterated embryo selection. I think with a culture where intellectuals much more get that this shouldn’t be discussed publicly, even the fringes would go quiet.
(But FYI for me this was the least realistic part of dath ilan, until I started writing this comment and thought about it properly.)
For example I think many Muslim countries have a lot of success at preventing pornography
Citation needed.
My default assumption for any claims of that sort is “they had a lot of success at concealing the pornography that existed in such a way that officials can pretend it doesn’t exist”.
Yes, all societies are identical except insofar as what the officials pretend about it. People in very religious societies are having just as much sex as in modern secular societies, they just do it in a way that allowed officials to pretend it didn’t exist.
I feel like the first two are enforceable with culture. For example I think many Muslim countries have a lot of success at preventing pornography (or at least, they did until the internet, which notably dath ilan seems to not quite have). I also have a sense that many people with severe mental/physical disabilities are implicitly treated as though they won’t have children in our culture, and as a result often do not. But I agree it’s hard to do it ethically, and both of the aforementioned ways aren’t done very ethically in our civilization IMO.
For the latter, remember, Eliezer says he’s an average guy in dath ilan. I think there are loads of ideas the average person on Earth hasn’t heard about that are world-shaking and that only get discussed in quiet corners, like iterated embryo selection. I think with a culture where intellectuals much more get that this shouldn’t be discussed publicly, even the fringes would go quiet.
(But FYI for me this was the least realistic part of dath ilan, until I started writing this comment and thought about it properly.)
Citation needed.
My default assumption for any claims of that sort is “they had a lot of success at concealing the pornography that existed in such a way that officials can pretend it doesn’t exist”.
Yes, all societies are identical except insofar as what the officials pretend about it. People in very religious societies are having just as much sex as in modern secular societies, they just do it in a way that allowed officials to pretend it didn’t exist.
Can’t tell if sarcastic
It was sarcastic! Sorry for the ambiguity.