I would like some more of those, yes. Tribal bonding is instrumentally useful.
(Of course this is an “all else equal” thing and you want shibboleths that don’t turn away outsiders or promote biased thinking or etc etc etc, insert your own caveats. Some of these suggestions seem low-cost and some don’t. I’m not persuaded we should adopt any of these in particular, but in principle it seems like a good avenue to explore.)
I’m far from convinced that this approach to rationality should be bound to a single tribal identification. True enough, tribal bonding is useful in the right situations, and identifying strongly with, say, your local meetup group seems like it could be instrumentally valuable for many of our contributors, but it seems far sketchier for LW as a whole: we’re delving into difficult and controversial territory here, and going full-bore tribal in our organizational tactics seems like a good way to devalue outside views on our stuff that we really need to be considering.
Can you think of any examples of LW brushing off outside views in an unhelpful way? I would be surprised if you could. The most upvoted post on the site is an outsider critiquing one of our sacred cows.
I would like some more of those, yes. Tribal bonding is instrumentally useful. (Of course this is an “all else equal” thing and you want shibboleths that don’t turn away outsiders or promote biased thinking or etc etc etc, insert your own caveats. Some of these suggestions seem low-cost and some don’t.)
Do we really want even more quirky shibboleths that can be worn as attire without having to actually learn anything difficult and useful?
I would like some more of those, yes. Tribal bonding is instrumentally useful.
(Of course this is an “all else equal” thing and you want shibboleths that don’t turn away outsiders or promote biased thinking or etc etc etc, insert your own caveats. Some of these suggestions seem low-cost and some don’t. I’m not persuaded we should adopt any of these in particular, but in principle it seems like a good avenue to explore.)
You mean we don’t already have more than enough of those?
I’m far from convinced that this approach to rationality should be bound to a single tribal identification. True enough, tribal bonding is useful in the right situations, and identifying strongly with, say, your local meetup group seems like it could be instrumentally valuable for many of our contributors, but it seems far sketchier for LW as a whole: we’re delving into difficult and controversial territory here, and going full-bore tribal in our organizational tactics seems like a good way to devalue outside views on our stuff that we really need to be considering.
Can you think of any examples of LW brushing off outside views in an unhelpful way? I would be surprised if you could. The most upvoted post on the site is an outsider critiquing one of our sacred cows.
No, but I want to think about it and see what other people think about it.
I would like some more of those, yes. Tribal bonding is instrumentally useful. (Of course this is an “all else equal” thing and you want shibboleths that don’t turn away outsiders or promote biased thinking or etc etc etc, insert your own caveats. Some of these suggestions seem low-cost and some don’t.)