You said of course they consider all women to be unique
No, I said that the behavior you described is consistent with considering all women to be unique. And it is. It just also happens to be consistent with the behavior of a jerk.
The topic change is that when I made the uniqueness comment, I was talking about womanizers I’ve known, not PUA or famous PUA gurus. Secondly, you keep equivocating on unique. Of course every person offers a unique experience of interaction. They are also all made out of utterly unique particles in utterly different configurations and no two of them have ever precisely occupied the same locations in time-space. That’s all irrelevant for the sense of uniqueness I explained, which has do with behavior and interchangeability.
The way in which I’ve said that womanizers I’ve known do not behave as if women are unique is that when they go out clubbing, if they’re with a bunch of friends, they’re quite willing to draw straws to see which of the potential women they get to chat up, and they hardly care which of many attractive women they get to go home with, as long as they go home with one of them, for they consider them not to be unique in the requisite sense of being attractive and willing to sleep with them. Sure they’re all different, but the differences are irrelevant to them, except possibly as a strategy to use for seducing the woman in question.
That’s all irrelevant for the sense of uniqueness I explained, which has do with behavior and interchangeability.
And you’re still missing my point: the behavior you describe can be generated by many different beliefs or perceptions internal to the person generating the behavior, and you cannot know (unless you ask, or at least perform a more detailed test than the one you’ve desribed) whether the person is willing to meet many different women because he does—or does not—consider them unique.
That is, until you ask, you can’t know whether his thought process is, “Every woman is unique, so no matter who I meet it will be a fun and interesting experience to discover what she’s like,” or else something so crude I won’t render it into actual words here.
What I have been pointing out is that there are people who state, teach, and promote the mindset I have spelled out here. Certainly, there are people of the other mindset, and disagreeable as it might be, I don’t argue with the fact that mindset also exists. You seem to be denying, however, that the more enlightened mindset also exists.
My original point was about particular individuals, womanizers that I’ve had conversations with and one of whom I knew very well.
I’ll agree that womanizing might arise out of thinking every woman is unique in a non-trivial (albeit not necessarily benign) sense, as you have suggested, but my point was that there is a tension between maintaining uniqueness and considering them fungible (even if they’re not totally incompatible). I’m not in the slightest interested in PUA and dating/seduction techniques and related topics, so I don’t have anything more to say on this topic.
No, I said that the behavior you described is consistent with considering all women to be unique. And it is. It just also happens to be consistent with the behavior of a jerk.
How is that changing topic?
The topic change is that when I made the uniqueness comment, I was talking about womanizers I’ve known, not PUA or famous PUA gurus. Secondly, you keep equivocating on unique. Of course every person offers a unique experience of interaction. They are also all made out of utterly unique particles in utterly different configurations and no two of them have ever precisely occupied the same locations in time-space. That’s all irrelevant for the sense of uniqueness I explained, which has do with behavior and interchangeability.
The way in which I’ve said that womanizers I’ve known do not behave as if women are unique is that when they go out clubbing, if they’re with a bunch of friends, they’re quite willing to draw straws to see which of the potential women they get to chat up, and they hardly care which of many attractive women they get to go home with, as long as they go home with one of them, for they consider them not to be unique in the requisite sense of being attractive and willing to sleep with them. Sure they’re all different, but the differences are irrelevant to them, except possibly as a strategy to use for seducing the woman in question.
And you’re still missing my point: the behavior you describe can be generated by many different beliefs or perceptions internal to the person generating the behavior, and you cannot know (unless you ask, or at least perform a more detailed test than the one you’ve desribed) whether the person is willing to meet many different women because he does—or does not—consider them unique.
That is, until you ask, you can’t know whether his thought process is, “Every woman is unique, so no matter who I meet it will be a fun and interesting experience to discover what she’s like,” or else something so crude I won’t render it into actual words here.
What I have been pointing out is that there are people who state, teach, and promote the mindset I have spelled out here. Certainly, there are people of the other mindset, and disagreeable as it might be, I don’t argue with the fact that mindset also exists. You seem to be denying, however, that the more enlightened mindset also exists.
My original point was about particular individuals, womanizers that I’ve had conversations with and one of whom I knew very well.
I’ll agree that womanizing might arise out of thinking every woman is unique in a non-trivial (albeit not necessarily benign) sense, as you have suggested, but my point was that there is a tension between maintaining uniqueness and considering them fungible (even if they’re not totally incompatible). I’m not in the slightest interested in PUA and dating/seduction techniques and related topics, so I don’t have anything more to say on this topic.