Usually it’s considered eminently rude (but not strictly false) to say that the members of your own ingroup are too dumb/biased to discuss a given topic fairly.
Isn’t social acceptance of saying rude but not false things exactly what you’re arguing in favor of?
In general I do carry a strong presumption against restricting speech. But I have a lot of prior experience that, for “gender difference observations not backed by data”, the value of the speech approaches nil in the average case, and is only marginally better on LW, so counterarguments carry a lot more relative weight.
Isn’t social acceptance of saying rude but not false things exactly what you’re arguing in favor of?
I don’t think so, unless you’re implying that the armchair theorizing in this community is always rude. I’d prefer to presume that not to be the case unless there’s evidence otherwise… and I conceded in my top-level reply to this thread that there sometimes is (in my view.)
Isn’t social acceptance of saying rude but not false things exactly what you’re arguing in favor of?
In general I do carry a strong presumption against restricting speech. But I have a lot of prior experience that, for “gender difference observations not backed by data”, the value of the speech approaches nil in the average case, and is only marginally better on LW, so counterarguments carry a lot more relative weight.
I don’t think so, unless you’re implying that the armchair theorizing in this community is always rude. I’d prefer to presume that not to be the case unless there’s evidence otherwise… and I conceded in my top-level reply to this thread that there sometimes is (in my view.)
Well, all else equal, speculations about other people based on their intrinsic demographics seems fairly rude to me; your mileage may vary.
I am, as I said, willing to accept rudeness when stating facts, though tact is always appreciated.