Rationality is a combination of keeping your map of the world as correct as you can (“epistemic rationality”, also known as “science” outside of LW) and doing things which are optimal in reaching your goals (“instrumental rationality”, also known as “pragmatism” outside of LW).
The “rationalists must win” point was made by EY to, basically, tie rationality to the real world and real success as opposed to declaring oneself extra rational via navel-gazing. It is basically “don’t tell me you’re better, show me you’re better”.
For a trivial example consider buying for $1 a lottery ticket which has a 1% chance of paying out $1000. It is rational to buy the ticket, but the expected outcome (mode, in statitics-speak) is that you will lose.
I see post-rationality as being the continued exploration of the former project (to win, crudely, though it includes even figuring out what winning means) without constraining oneself to the boundaries of the latter.
So, um, how to win using any means necessary..? I am not sure where do you want to go outside of the “boundaries of the latter”.
Rationality is a combination of keeping your map of the world as correct as you can (“epistemic rationality”, also known as “science” outside of LW)
I’m not sure that’s what people usually mean by science. And most of the questions we’re concerned about in our lives (“am I going to be able to pay the credit in time?”) are not usually considered to be scientific ones.
I don’t think it is.
Rationality is a combination of keeping your map of the world as correct as you can (“epistemic rationality”, also known as “science” outside of LW) and doing things which are optimal in reaching your goals (“instrumental rationality”, also known as “pragmatism” outside of LW).
The “rationalists must win” point was made by EY to, basically, tie rationality to the real world and real success as opposed to declaring oneself extra rational via navel-gazing. It is basically “don’t tell me you’re better, show me you’re better”.
For a trivial example consider buying for $1 a lottery ticket which has a 1% chance of paying out $1000. It is rational to buy the ticket, but the expected outcome (mode, in statitics-speak) is that you will lose.
So, um, how to win using any means necessary..? I am not sure where do you want to go outside of the “boundaries of the latter”.
I’m not sure that’s what people usually mean by science. And most of the questions we’re concerned about in our lives (“am I going to be able to pay the credit in time?”) are not usually considered to be scientific ones.
Other than that minor nitpick, I agree.