Given that I experience God or anything supernatural empirically and I can reasonably exclude that I am suffering from hallucinations, then it is more probable for me to believe that the phenomena was supernatural rather than an improbable quantum mechanical phenonemon. Maybe what I call God is actually Frud. Maybe God “is a tuna sandwich I once made that had a special property, it created the universe, past and future.” I don’t expect to realise all of God’s properties from a single experience.
Predictive power is not always required. Historians have quite a problem predicting things based on what they read on Caesar. You can’t thus say that there are no historical facts (fact as factual as in “objective” news reporting).
You point out a context that does not require predictive power, but you have not shown that this context is equivalent to testing for God’s existence empirically. Without a common context, your example is irrelevant to the issue.
I don’t get you. What is your understanding of “testing for God’s existence empirically?”
Well draq, I’m removing myself from all threads of our conversation
both current and proposed. I don’t see enough benefit for me to go on.
I can’t be sure that you read my comments with enough care for you to
understand and appropriately respond. You missed points that I made
repeatedly and explicitly.
I’ve pulled apart several of your ideas and demonstrated their
problems. You didn’t responded directly to my claims, you didn’t
show flaws in my reasoning. Generally in debate this means you
conceded the point.
You seldom answered my direct questions. This made it very difficult
for me to understand your point of view.
Instead your responses were indirect and included new claims or
questions. These responses lead away from the topic at hand. You
appeared to avoid any conversation that would actually shed light on
your beliefs and allow them to be sorted into true/useful or
false/harmful.
From our conversation and your other comments I have concluded that
you generally aren’t distinguishing between stories and reality, and
are resistant to doing so. This gives me low confidence in your
ability to come to sound conclusions.
What I meant to say is “morality is absolute as reality.” I hope that clears everything.
Given that I experience God or anything supernatural empirically and I can reasonably exclude that I am suffering from hallucinations, then it is more probable for me to believe that the phenomena was supernatural rather than an improbable quantum mechanical phenonemon. Maybe what I call God is actually Frud. Maybe God “is a tuna sandwich I once made that had a special property, it created the universe, past and future.” I don’t expect to realise all of God’s properties from a single experience.
I don’t get you. What is your understanding of “testing for God’s existence empirically?”
Well draq, I’m removing myself from all threads of our conversation both current and proposed. I don’t see enough benefit for me to go on.
I can’t be sure that you read my comments with enough care for you to understand and appropriately respond. You missed points that I made repeatedly and explicitly.
I’ve pulled apart several of your ideas and demonstrated their problems. You didn’t responded directly to my claims, you didn’t show flaws in my reasoning. Generally in debate this means you conceded the point.
You seldom answered my direct questions. This made it very difficult for me to understand your point of view.
Instead your responses were indirect and included new claims or questions. These responses lead away from the topic at hand. You appeared to avoid any conversation that would actually shed light on your beliefs and allow them to be sorted into true/useful or false/harmful.
From our conversation and your other comments I have concluded that you generally aren’t distinguishing between stories and reality, and are resistant to doing so. This gives me low confidence in your ability to come to sound conclusions.