The standard argument for opt-out is that it avoids the problem whereby newcomers don’t realize the option is there, which seems relatively salient in this case.
Especially if the “Make it go away please” option is clearly labeled, I’m content with opt-out (speaking as one of the uninterested folk).
Hmm. I agree re. utility of drawing newcomers’ attention to it. I’m still not sure opt-in is the best way to do that, when there are other measures that achieve this and bring other benefits (such as an improved “newcomer experience”—i.e. some kind of tutorial or page with suggestions) without any opt-out problems.
Put another way, if the goal is to draw newcomers’ attention to something, then actually drawing their attention to it seems to me a better approach.
FWIW I don’t feel strongly about participating in meet-ups either, but opt-out seems to be done wrong by so many organisations that I set the bar pretty high for what I’ll agree is a reasonable justification. When all the purported benefits of an opt-out arrangement don’t actually depend on it being opt-out, I am sceptical. :)
A “newcomer experience” or “how to use this site” kind of approach through which all the bells and whistles are explained, so they don’t have to be default-visible to get attention, seems like a fine thing. Upvoted that.
The standard argument for opt-out is that it avoids the problem whereby newcomers don’t realize the option is there, which seems relatively salient in this case.
Especially if the “Make it go away please” option is clearly labeled, I’m content with opt-out (speaking as one of the uninterested folk).
Hmm. I agree re. utility of drawing newcomers’ attention to it. I’m still not sure opt-in is the best way to do that, when there are other measures that achieve this and bring other benefits (such as an improved “newcomer experience”—i.e. some kind of tutorial or page with suggestions) without any opt-out problems.
Put another way, if the goal is to draw newcomers’ attention to something, then actually drawing their attention to it seems to me a better approach.
FWIW I don’t feel strongly about participating in meet-ups either, but opt-out seems to be done wrong by so many organisations that I set the bar pretty high for what I’ll agree is a reasonable justification. When all the purported benefits of an opt-out arrangement don’t actually depend on it being opt-out, I am sceptical. :)
Sure. And I endorse skepticism in general.
A “newcomer experience” or “how to use this site” kind of approach through which all the bells and whistles are explained, so they don’t have to be default-visible to get attention, seems like a fine thing. Upvoted that.