Yet out of all difficult questions I’ve ever discussed, this seems to be the hardest one to open a rational discussion about; the amount of sanctimoniousness and/or logical incoherence in the answers one typically gets is just staggering.
My experience is similar. Even people that are usually extremely rational go loopy.
One exception are several discussions I’ve read on Overcoming Bias, which at least asked the right questions, but unfortunately only scratched the surface in answering them.
I seem to recall one post there that specifically targeted the issue. But you did ask “what basis should” while Robin was just asserting a controversial is.
But you did ask “what basis should” while Robin was just asserting a controversial is.
I probably didn’t word my above comment very well. I am also asking only for an accurate description of the controversial “is.”
The fact is that nearly all people attach great moral importance to these issues, and what I’d like (at least for start) is for them to state the “shoulds” they believe in clearly, comprehensively, and coherently, and to explain the exact principles with which they justify these “shoulds.” My above stated questions should be understood in these terms.
If you are sufficiently curious you could make a post here. People will be somewhat motivated to tone down the hysteria given that you will have pre-emptively shunned it.
My experience is similar. Even people that are usually extremely rational go loopy.
I seem to recall one post there that specifically targeted the issue. But you did ask “what basis should” while Robin was just asserting a controversial is.
wedrifid:
I probably didn’t word my above comment very well. I am also asking only for an accurate description of the controversial “is.”
The fact is that nearly all people attach great moral importance to these issues, and what I’d like (at least for start) is for them to state the “shoulds” they believe in clearly, comprehensively, and coherently, and to explain the exact principles with which they justify these “shoulds.” My above stated questions should be understood in these terms.
If you are sufficiently curious you could make a post here. People will be somewhat motivated to tone down the hysteria given that you will have pre-emptively shunned it.