Spurred on by your willingness to consider the anatomy of your body and it’s connection to what you experience … Try focusing on: the 5 main muscles made easy as you move (and rest). Build the connection, feel for their relative state and positioning.
I’ve come to believe chakras are trying to describe the feeling/experience of the body when it is being used ‘correctly’ and that these muscles are the key—if I can just get a few people to give it some thought.
Working with these muscles, regaining my range of movement and releasing the tensions both physical and mental has made life so much better.
It seems to me like you consider conscious proprioception something important that has little description in mainstream writings and then mix all kind of different perspectives on the subject together.
From my perspective there are a bunch of different traditions that have their own views on the subject and I don’t think it’s useful to muddy all the different ways together.
Physically balancing the body is the key to better health, physically and mentally.
Working with the 5 main muscles of movement is the method to get there.
The ‘Base-Line’ pelvic floor and rectus abdominis muscles are central to the process.
The first comment I received on LW suggested my intro. post to body alignment was missing a “hook” but everything after the anatomy—including what I write about conscious proprioception—is just words. I’m trying to explain something that I feel, trying to hook a few willing to think about their body and how they move. A simple framework but it requires participation.
It’s all about the anatomy and building a connection between mind and muscles.
From my perspective there are a bunch of different traditions that have their own views on the subject and I don’t think it’s useful to muddy all the different ways together.
From my perspective, this is the underlying anatomy that clarifies much muddiness in many traditions.
It seems to me like you judge traditions to be muddy without knowing anything about them and their developed bodies of knowledge.
Why should I believe that the concepts that you came up are less muddy then let’s say the concepts of Rolfing about how to create physical alignment that were refined over decades by Ida Rolf who learned from Korzybski about how to use language well in Esalen and later by other people in other places?
I like both foxes and hedgehogs and think we need both to make intellectual progress. I enjoy leggis hedgehoggy take on emobdiment, and suspect that a fox who understands it will make better predictions than a fox who doesn’t.
I’ve scrubbed the end bit. It was a flippant finish but I do believe this anatomy is key to how the body moves and what the concepts of chakras are trying to describe.
You shouldn’t believe anything! And I appreciate your interest and questioning.
What I say is based on my experiences and logical thought—working from accepted anatomical ‘facts’ - of the main muscles of movement.
The concept of the linea alba and nuchal/supraspinous ligaments being midline guides for alignment is so obvious to me now but if someone can disagree then I would love to hear.
As for Rolfing, I came across it during research on “myo-fascial release”. I would have liked to learn more but information isn’t that easy to find—if you have any sources I would be interested. A potentially useful technique possibly turned into a pyramid scheme.
This is a do-it-yourself technique—no financial costs, just the willingness to try. T
Learn to feel your alignment by working from your Base-Line.
Most of the communication within a field like Rolfing is through in-person events and not through the written word.
Recently, the Fascia Research Congress brought people across different disciplines of body work together. The congress resulted in the book Fascia: The Tensional Network of the Human Body which provides a good overview about plenty of different paradigms.
As far as the underlying anatomy goes, fascia seems to be central.
Anatomy Trains by Thomas W. Myers is a good anatomy book by a Rolfer that’s written for a broader audience.
Most of the communication within a field like Rolfing is through in-person events and not through the written word.
I ask why is that? What benefit? For whom?
I dislike the term “fascia”, I feel it is poorly defined but fashionable. If you have a solid definition I could work with because I do think it’s a useful concept. I use ‘connective tissue’ a covering term for what is a blend of fibrous tissues in various forms. I’ve handled a lot of mammalian tissues over the years, it’s interesting stuff—in many forms, blending through the body. I’ve never thought it of central, rather almost ubiquitous.
I came across anatomy trains whilst researching my hypothesis a few years back, you’ve spurred me into sending an email to anatomy trains. On honest reflection of why I’ve not done this before—trust issues (I don’t want someone stealing my ideas) and because it’s so frikking obvious with a bit of thought and Myers seemed closer than most. I think I’ve published enough to be able to say ‘it’s mine’ now.Oh the ego.
The anatomy trains pictures are a useful illustration of ‘patterns’ that I will expand on in further posts. The “trains” should be free to fully extend, this can’t happen when physical restrictions are present, unbalancing the body.. Imbalance leads to further imbalance—the stress and tension zig-zagging across the body, twisting and mis-aligning, up and down and across the “trains” as the body stiffens to keep us functioning when we don’t have full usage of the main muscles.
We can’t control our connective tissue directly, we can learn to control our muscles. To use them well and regain a full range of natural of movement.
Spurred on by your willingness to consider the anatomy of your body and it’s connection to what you experience … Try focusing on: the 5 main muscles made easy as you move (and rest). Build the connection, feel for their relative state and positioning.
I’ve come to believe chakras are trying to describe the feeling/experience of the body when it is being used ‘correctly’ and that these muscles are the key—if I can just get a few people to give it some thought.
Working with these muscles, regaining my range of movement and releasing the tensions both physical and mental has made life so much better.
It seems to me like you consider conscious proprioception something important that has little description in mainstream writings and then mix all kind of different perspectives on the subject together.
From my perspective there are a bunch of different traditions that have their own views on the subject and I don’t think it’s useful to muddy all the different ways together.
When I ask myself what I consider important …
It is getting the message across that:
Physically balancing the body is the key to better health, physically and mentally.
Working with the 5 main muscles of movement is the method to get there.
The ‘Base-Line’ pelvic floor and rectus abdominis muscles are central to the process.
The first comment I received on LW suggested my intro. post to body alignment was missing a “hook” but everything after the anatomy—including what I write about conscious proprioception—is just words. I’m trying to explain something that I feel, trying to hook a few willing to think about their body and how they move. A simple framework but it requires participation.
It’s all about the anatomy and building a connection between mind and muscles.
From my perspective, this is the underlying anatomy that clarifies much muddiness in many traditions.
It seems to me like you judge traditions to be muddy without knowing anything about them and their developed bodies of knowledge.
Why should I believe that the concepts that you came up are less muddy then let’s say the concepts of Rolfing about how to create physical alignment that were refined over decades by Ida Rolf who learned from Korzybski about how to use language well in Esalen and later by other people in other places?
I like both foxes and hedgehogs and think we need both to make intellectual progress. I enjoy leggis hedgehoggy take on emobdiment, and suspect that a fox who understands it will make better predictions than a fox who doesn’t.
I’ve scrubbed the end bit. It was a flippant finish but I do believe this anatomy is key to how the body moves and what the concepts of chakras are trying to describe.
You shouldn’t believe anything! And I appreciate your interest and questioning.
What I say is based on my experiences and logical thought—working from accepted anatomical ‘facts’ - of the main muscles of movement.
The concept of the linea alba and nuchal/supraspinous ligaments being midline guides for alignment is so obvious to me now but if someone can disagree then I would love to hear.
As for Rolfing, I came across it during research on “myo-fascial release”. I would have liked to learn more but information isn’t that easy to find—if you have any sources I would be interested. A potentially useful technique possibly turned into a pyramid scheme.
This is a do-it-yourself technique—no financial costs, just the willingness to try. T
Learn to feel your alignment by working from your Base-Line.
Most of the communication within a field like Rolfing is through in-person events and not through the written word.
Recently, the Fascia Research Congress brought people across different disciplines of body work together. The congress resulted in the book Fascia: The Tensional Network of the Human Body which provides a good overview about plenty of different paradigms.
As far as the underlying anatomy goes, fascia seems to be central.
Anatomy Trains by Thomas W. Myers is a good anatomy book by a Rolfer that’s written for a broader audience.
I ask why is that? What benefit? For whom?
I dislike the term “fascia”, I feel it is poorly defined but fashionable. If you have a solid definition I could work with because I do think it’s a useful concept. I use ‘connective tissue’ a covering term for what is a blend of fibrous tissues in various forms. I’ve handled a lot of mammalian tissues over the years, it’s interesting stuff—in many forms, blending through the body. I’ve never thought it of central, rather almost ubiquitous.
I came across anatomy trains whilst researching my hypothesis a few years back, you’ve spurred me into sending an email to anatomy trains. On honest reflection of why I’ve not done this before—trust issues (I don’t want someone stealing my ideas) and because it’s so frikking obvious with a bit of thought and Myers seemed closer than most. I think I’ve published enough to be able to say ‘it’s mine’ now. Oh the ego.
The anatomy trains pictures are a useful illustration of ‘patterns’ that I will expand on in further posts. The “trains” should be free to fully extend, this can’t happen when physical restrictions are present, unbalancing the body.. Imbalance leads to further imbalance—the stress and tension zig-zagging across the body, twisting and mis-aligning, up and down and across the “trains” as the body stiffens to keep us functioning when we don’t have full usage of the main muscles.
We can’t control our connective tissue directly, we can learn to control our muscles. To use them well and regain a full range of natural of movement.