Is social status the only thing you care about when in a classroom?
It’s a minor concern, often below getting rest, immediate sense of boredom or the audiobook I’m listening to. I’m certainly neither a model student (with respect to things like lecture attendance and engagement as opposed to grades) nor a particularly dedicated status optimiser.
I think you must have interpreted my words differently than I intended them. I would not expect that reply if the meaning had come across clearly but I am not quite sure where the confusion is.
And “sufficiently correlated” isn’t good enough, per Goodhart’s law. You can improve your chances of getting laid even more by getting drunk in a night club in a major city, and you can bring them close to 1 by paying a prostitute.
I think there must be some miscommunication here. There is a difference between considering a metric to be somewhat useful as a means of evaluating something and outright replacing one’s preferences with a lost purpose. I had thought we were talking about the first of these. The quote you made includes ‘at all relevant’ (a low standard) and in the context was merely a rejection of the claim ‘nonsense’.
I think you must have interpreted my words differently than I intended them. I would not expect that reply if the meaning had come across clearly but I am not quite sure where the confusion is.
So, you said:
He ‘should’ feel embarassment if the if interfered with his social goals in the context. All things considered it most likely did not, (assuming he did not immediately signal humiliation and submission, which it appears he didn’t).
ISTM this doesn’t follow unless you assume he had no goals other than social ones that his burst of laughter could have interfered with; am I missing something?
I think there must be some miscommunication here. There is a difference between considering a metric to be somewhat useful as a means of evaluating something and outright replacing one’s preferences with a lost purpose. I had thought we were talking about the first of these. The quote you made includes ‘at all relevant’ (a low standard) and in the context was merely a rejection of the claim ‘nonsense’.
ISTM this doesn’t follow unless you assume he had no goals other than social ones that his burst of laughter could have interfered with; am I missing something?
Ahh, pardon me. I was replying at that time to the statement “You should be embarrassed by this story.”, where embarrassment is something I would describe as an emotional response to realising that you made a social blunder. It occurs to me now that I could have better conveyed my intended meaning if I included the other words inside my quotation marks like:
He “should feel embarrassment” if the if interfered with his social goals in the context.
Thank you for explaining. I was quite confused about what wasn’t working in that communication.
It’s a minor concern, often below getting rest, immediate sense of boredom or the audiobook I’m listening to. I’m certainly neither a model student (with respect to things like lecture attendance and engagement as opposed to grades) nor a particularly dedicated status optimiser.
I think you must have interpreted my words differently than I intended them. I would not expect that reply if the meaning had come across clearly but I am not quite sure where the confusion is.
I think there must be some miscommunication here. There is a difference between considering a metric to be somewhat useful as a means of evaluating something and outright replacing one’s preferences with a lost purpose. I had thought we were talking about the first of these. The quote you made includes ‘at all relevant’ (a low standard) and in the context was merely a rejection of the claim ‘nonsense’.
So, you said:
ISTM this doesn’t follow unless you assume he had no goals other than social ones that his burst of laughter could have interfered with; am I missing something?
OK, I see it now.
Ahh, pardon me. I was replying at that time to the statement “You should be embarrassed by this story.”, where embarrassment is something I would describe as an emotional response to realising that you made a social blunder. It occurs to me now that I could have better conveyed my intended meaning if I included the other words inside my quotation marks like:
Thank you for explaining. I was quite confused about what wasn’t working in that communication.