Also thinking about whether affirmative action and the desperate impact doctrine are reasonable ideas.
I can’t recall anyone on LW advocating those, so you might be attacking a straw man.
That’s because they rarely come up. In any case my point is that these doctrines are in place in the USA and the false belief that race is uncorrelated with anything important.
I mean data about individuals like resumes and qualifications That racial-group info correlates with important things is unimportant, unless it correlates significantly more than individual data. However, the reverse is the case.
First I don’t understand the distinction your drawing between “individual data” and presumably “group data” since the people with a particular qualification are a group and conversely skin color, say, is a property of an individual.
Back to the point: in the great-grandparent I was talking about affirmative action and the disparate impact. The logic of those is based on concluding that racism happened on the basis of disparate outcomes. This logic relies on the implicit premise that race isn’t correlated with anything important. I don’t see how anything you wrote in your two comments that addresses this issue.
That’s because they rarely come up. In any case my point is that these doctrines are in place in the USA and the false belief that race is uncorrelated with anything important.
Nobody has yet shown that racial-group data is more correlated with important things than individual data.
What do you mean by “individual data”?
Also, how is this relevant to my point?
I mean data about individuals like resumes and qualifications That racial-group info correlates with important things is unimportant, unless it correlates significantly more than individual data. However, the reverse is the case.
First I don’t understand the distinction your drawing between “individual data” and presumably “group data” since the people with a particular qualification are a group and conversely skin color, say, is a property of an individual.
Back to the point: in the great-grandparent I was talking about affirmative action and the disparate impact. The logic of those is based on concluding that racism happened on the basis of disparate outcomes. This logic relies on the implicit premise that race isn’t correlated with anything important. I don’t see how anything you wrote in your two comments that addresses this issue.