@Yvain: To first order and generalizing from one data point, figure that Eliezer_2000 is demonstrably as smart and as knowledgeable as you can possibly get while still being stupid enough to try and charge full steam ahead into Unfriendly AI. Figure that Eliezer_2002 is as high as it gets before you spontaneously stop trying to build low-precision Friendly AI. Both of these are smart enough to be dangerous and not smart enough to be helpful…
To put it briefly: There really is an upper bound on how smart you can be, and still be that stupid.
I think this line of argument should provide less comfort that it seems to.
Firstly, intelligent people can meaningfully have different values. Not all intelligences value the same things and not all human intelligences value the same things. Some people might be willing to take more risk with other people’s lives than you. Example: Oil company executives. There is strong reason to believe they are very intelligent and effective; they seem to achieve their goals in the world with a higher frequency than most other groups. Yet they also seem more likely to take actions with high risks to third parties.
Second, an intelligent moral individual could be bound up in an institution which exerts pressure on them to act in a way that satisfies the institutions values rather than their own. It is commonly said (although I don’t have a source, so grain of salt needed) that some members of the Manhattan project were not Certain that the reaction would not just continue indefinitely. It seems plausible that some of those physicists might have been over what has been described as the “upper bound on how smart you can be, and still be that stupid.”
I think this line of argument should provide less comfort that it seems to. Firstly, intelligent people can meaningfully have different values. Not all intelligences value the same things and not all human intelligences value the same things. Some people might be willing to take more risk with other people’s lives than you. Example: Oil company executives. There is strong reason to believe they are very intelligent and effective; they seem to achieve their goals in the world with a higher frequency than most other groups. Yet they also seem more likely to take actions with high risks to third parties.
Second, an intelligent moral individual could be bound up in an institution which exerts pressure on them to act in a way that satisfies the institutions values rather than their own. It is commonly said (although I don’t have a source, so grain of salt needed) that some members of the Manhattan project were not Certain that the reaction would not just continue indefinitely. It seems plausible that some of those physicists might have been over what has been described as the “upper bound on how smart you can be, and still be that stupid.”