I was at three 3-hour workshops and they were all worthwhile. The first one under the title above was a year ago and led by Juro Glo. Juro is quite young as far as trainers go but is living the radical honesty paradigma all the time. From reading material I had the impression that radical honesty was about being mean but Jura happened to be one of the sweetest people I know, which was interesting.
She thought the workshop didn’t go as planned (and said so, because of honesty) but everyone had a really great time.
Jura than became Taber Shadburne assistant and my second radical honesty workshop was with Taber and that time purely focused on Radical Honesty. Taber has his 30 years of experience and fulfills the heuristic of seeking teachers that have their 10,000 hours of practice. While we are at it when Chris Mulzer from whom I learned NLP retold the story of the 10,000 hours research he spoke of 20,000 hours because that number makes more sense to him. Taber has likely 20,000 hours as well.
I think the heuristic of choosing teacher who have 20,000 hours invested into their skills is one that served me well regardless of the particular methologies.
I think radical honesty is a good workable alternative to Crookers Rule as it teaches you how to communicate all information in a good way. Of course there are situations that are political and where it’s still not effective to communicate everything.
One interesting framing that Taber brought during his workshop is that radical honesty is about become a connoisseur of pain. In Yoga it’s important to learn to feel how the pain from stretching a muscle to it’s limit feel different than the pain from putting your legs into a position that’s unhealthy for your joints. In a similar way it’s important to learn to feel the difference between different kinds of pains in social communication.
I think this is a very useful way to think about comfortzone expansion and it’s a metaphar that comes to my mind when actually faced with the decision whether or not to do something that lies outside of my comfort zone.
The point isn’t doing random out of the comfort zone exercises that trigger some kind of pain but to actually choose those experiences that have the right kind of pain. But of course distinguishing those kinds of pain and then actually engaging in the action that’s healthy pain isn’t something to be fully learned in 10 hours.
I took the last workshop with a person for whom it was their first radical honesty workshop a week ago. I attended with my girlfriend and we used afterwards the framework with in our communication with each other to good effect.
As far as recommendations go I would estimate that radical honesty workshops are more effective than PUA workshops at the goals for which people visit PUA workshops.
As far as the book goes, I haven’t read it personally and can’t recommend it from personal experience. I have a friend who read it and found it very useful as far as his social effectiveness went. At the other hand I would rate his understanding of the framework as more superficial.
For the general rationality movement I think it would think it would be positive if more people would study radical honesty.
I was at three 3-hour workshops and they were all worthwhile. The first one under the title above was a year ago and led by Juro Glo. Juro is quite young as far as trainers go but is living the radical honesty paradigma all the time. From reading material I had the impression that radical honesty was about being mean but Jura happened to be one of the sweetest people I know, which was interesting. She thought the workshop didn’t go as planned (and said so, because of honesty) but everyone had a really great time.
Jura than became Taber Shadburne assistant and my second radical honesty workshop was with Taber and that time purely focused on Radical Honesty. Taber has his 30 years of experience and fulfills the heuristic of seeking teachers that have their 10,000 hours of practice. While we are at it when Chris Mulzer from whom I learned NLP retold the story of the 10,000 hours research he spoke of 20,000 hours because that number makes more sense to him. Taber has likely 20,000 hours as well.
I think the heuristic of choosing teacher who have 20,000 hours invested into their skills is one that served me well regardless of the particular methologies.
I think radical honesty is a good workable alternative to Crookers Rule as it teaches you how to communicate all information in a good way. Of course there are situations that are political and where it’s still not effective to communicate everything.
One interesting framing that Taber brought during his workshop is that radical honesty is about become a connoisseur of pain. In Yoga it’s important to learn to feel how the pain from stretching a muscle to it’s limit feel different than the pain from putting your legs into a position that’s unhealthy for your joints. In a similar way it’s important to learn to feel the difference between different kinds of pains in social communication.
I think this is a very useful way to think about comfortzone expansion and it’s a metaphar that comes to my mind when actually faced with the decision whether or not to do something that lies outside of my comfort zone. The point isn’t doing random out of the comfort zone exercises that trigger some kind of pain but to actually choose those experiences that have the right kind of pain. But of course distinguishing those kinds of pain and then actually engaging in the action that’s healthy pain isn’t something to be fully learned in 10 hours.
I took the last workshop with a person for whom it was their first radical honesty workshop a week ago. I attended with my girlfriend and we used afterwards the framework with in our communication with each other to good effect.
As far as recommendations go I would estimate that radical honesty workshops are more effective than PUA workshops at the goals for which people visit PUA workshops.
As far as the book goes, I haven’t read it personally and can’t recommend it from personal experience. I have a friend who read it and found it very useful as far as his social effectiveness went. At the other hand I would rate his understanding of the framework as more superficial.
For the general rationality movement I think it would think it would be positive if more people would study radical honesty.