Seriously, though, I wonder to what extent it’s really possible to argue people out of religion. And I strongly suspect it’s close to zero.
Is the function of a post like this (and Dennett’s books on the subject, and everything Dawkins has done in the last N years, etc. etc.) less to persuade and more to—well—call it argument as attire? By hammering out yet another strong argument about the overwhelming dumbness of religion, you, and Dennett, and Dawkins (and sometimes I) self-identify as a member of the atheist-intellectual-sciencenerd tribe.
It’s clearly not zero. In fact, you mention Dawkins, who maintains a “Convert’s Corner” of people who have become atheists (or at least come out as atheists) as a result of The God Delusion. The persuadability of humans is not as high as it ought to be if we were perfect Bayesians; but it also clearly not zero.
You’ve responded to several comments just now that were made years ago by people who no longer post here, probably migrated from the earlier form of the website. You may get responses and conversations, but probably will not get direct replies from the commenters you’re addressing!
It’s no big deal, really, most of the time. Actually, under “preferences” on the sidebar there’s an “anti-kibitzing” mode that automatically hides karma and names, if you’d like that!
Personally, I think this should be encouraged. There’s no reason to stop discussing a certain topic just because the discussion started a long time ago and many people have forgotten it.
Yeah, you never know if someone in the process of reading the Sequences, won’t periodically go back and try to read all the discussions. Like, I am not going to read the twenty posts with 0 karma and 0 replies; but ones with comments? Opposing ideas and discussions spark invigorating thought. Though it does get a bit tedious on the more popularized articles, like this one.
So I take it you don’t like Kierkegaard? Humph.
Seriously, though, I wonder to what extent it’s really possible to argue people out of religion. And I strongly suspect it’s close to zero.
Is the function of a post like this (and Dennett’s books on the subject, and everything Dawkins has done in the last N years, etc. etc.) less to persuade and more to—well—call it argument as attire? By hammering out yet another strong argument about the overwhelming dumbness of religion, you, and Dennett, and Dawkins (and sometimes I) self-identify as a member of the atheist-intellectual-sciencenerd tribe.
It’s clearly not zero. In fact, you mention Dawkins, who maintains a “Convert’s Corner” of people who have become atheists (or at least come out as atheists) as a result of The God Delusion. The persuadability of humans is not as high as it ought to be if we were perfect Bayesians; but it also clearly not zero.
You’ve responded to several comments just now that were made years ago by people who no longer post here, probably migrated from the earlier form of the website. You may get responses and conversations, but probably will not get direct replies from the commenters you’re addressing!
My general MO is to ignore the name and date and skip straight to the content. I suppose it does sometimes have a downside.
It’s no big deal, really, most of the time. Actually, under “preferences” on the sidebar there’s an “anti-kibitzing” mode that automatically hides karma and names, if you’d like that!
Personally, I think this should be encouraged. There’s no reason to stop discussing a certain topic just because the discussion started a long time ago and many people have forgotten it.
Yeah, you never know if someone in the process of reading the Sequences, won’t periodically go back and try to read all the discussions. Like, I am not going to read the twenty posts with 0 karma and 0 replies; but ones with comments? Opposing ideas and discussions spark invigorating thought. Though it does get a bit tedious on the more popularized articles, like this one.