Let me use a crude example. Say a person is facing the choice of taking 10 dollars versus getting a healthy meal. What should he do?
The presupposition of free will in this question is not the act of taking the other person’s perspective, it is the framing of the question in terms of what should he do (assuming he is free to do it), not what does he do.
When we analyze a computer bug, it is actually the second type of method we are using.
Please do not tell me how my thought processes proceed when debugging, thank you very kindly. I’ll merely tell you that you have a bad case of Typical Mind Fallacy and leave it at that.
>The presupposition of free will in this question is not the act of taking the other person’s perspective, it is the framing of the question in terms of what should he do (assuming he is free to do it), not what does he do.
When you make decisions such as which movie to watch, which shirt to buy, etc, do you ever do so by analyzing your brain’s structure and function thus deducing what result it would produce? I will take a wild guess and say that’s not how you think. You decide by comparing the alternatives based on preference. This reasoning is clearly different from reductively studying the brain, I wouldn’t call it just a framing difference.
As for debugging, I am not telling you how to do it. Debugging is essentially figuring why a Turing machine is not functioning as intended. One can follow its actions step by step to find the error, but that would still be reductively analyzing it rather than imagine oneself being the program. That would involve imagining how it feels to be the program. I don’t even think that is possible. So I’m certainly not saying to assume the program’s “mind” being the same as your own, as Typical Mind Fallacy says.
You decide by comparing the alternatives based on preference.
Which is not obviously free. If you have clear, unconflicted preferences all the time then they determine your actions. In fact, that’s a common argument against free will.
The presupposition of free will in this question is not the act of taking the other person’s perspective, it is the framing of the question in terms of what should he do (assuming he is free to do it), not what does he do.
Please do not tell me how my thought processes proceed when debugging, thank you very kindly. I’ll merely tell you that you have a bad case of Typical Mind Fallacy and leave it at that.
>The presupposition of free will in this question is not the act of taking the other person’s perspective, it is the framing of the question in terms of what should he do (assuming he is free to do it), not what does he do.
When you make decisions such as which movie to watch, which shirt to buy, etc, do you ever do so by analyzing your brain’s structure and function thus deducing what result it would produce? I will take a wild guess and say that’s not how you think. You decide by comparing the alternatives based on preference. This reasoning is clearly different from reductively studying the brain, I wouldn’t call it just a framing difference.
As for debugging, I am not telling you how to do it. Debugging is essentially figuring why a Turing machine is not functioning as intended. One can follow its actions step by step to find the error, but that would still be reductively analyzing it rather than imagine oneself being the program. That would involve imagining how it feels to be the program. I don’t even think that is possible. So I’m certainly not saying to assume the program’s “mind” being the same as your own, as Typical Mind Fallacy says.
Which is not obviously free. If you have clear, unconflicted preferences all the time then they determine your actions. In fact, that’s a common argument against free will.