Well, I would say it’s a case of me taking an outside view (predicting use of voting on lesswrong based on multiple other similar communities with similar voting systems, like particular reddits), and you taking an inside view (predicting use of voting on lesswrong based on your perceived characteristics of lesswrong users).
If my interpretation of source of our disagreement is correct, I think outside view is much more likely to be accurate. And in case anybody wonders, I haven’t downvoted any comment on lesswrong ever (only one post I found uninteresting), but I might still be biased towards upvoting comments I disagree with less often than ones I agree with, so I might be biased in use of voting buttons too.
While this site isn’t Reddit, absolutely anyone who’s registered can down or upvote posts. This may include people who didn’t evaluate the post, people who are below the sanity line we’d wish of members of LW, sock puppets and of course, even for a decent rationalist, some posts may still elicit a strong emotional response, upon which we may be tempted to act. Sometimes we won’t even notice we did.
And for instance in the past two days I’ve seen quite a few posts downvoted because the people who made them weren’t acting like we would expect rationalists would, or simply weren’t nice and careful enough with their wording. I was tempted to upvote them on the idea that so long as such posts only represent a minority of the site’s output, rationalists could just use that as information, and update on it. Interesting cases of muddled thinking and biases to learn from.
I decided against it since I noticed this was mainly a rationalization, that my main motivation was rooted my desire to “help” in what I emotionally perceived as a case of “injustice”. On second thought I decided that the community’s vote should in most case be better than my opinion, unless I had a concrete, real reason to the contrary.
I rarely upvote anything, and almost never downvote anyway. I use the first to push up ideas I find interesting. I don’t usually find enough real good reasons to use the latter.
To get back to my point though, which are our safeguards against people operating multiple accounts, or who simply registered here without having a real idea of what was going on ?
The idea of not just voting, but also explaining why we choose one way or the other, seems interesting.
I’m usually pretty quick to downvote low-quality posts that I don’t want to see again, but which I’m afraid others will refrain from downvoting because the comment is also disagreeing with the groupthink and the others will start questioning their own correct quality judgment.
What should really get the upvotes are the high-quality comments that disagree with the groupthink. These are the precious heroic ones. Don’t set that standard too low!
This site is not Reddit. You got a downvote for sloppy generalizing.
Well, I would say it’s a case of me taking an outside view (predicting use of voting on lesswrong based on multiple other similar communities with similar voting systems, like particular reddits), and you taking an inside view (predicting use of voting on lesswrong based on your perceived characteristics of lesswrong users).
If my interpretation of source of our disagreement is correct, I think outside view is much more likely to be accurate. And in case anybody wonders, I haven’t downvoted any comment on lesswrong ever (only one post I found uninteresting), but I might still be biased towards upvoting comments I disagree with less often than ones I agree with, so I might be biased in use of voting buttons too.
While this site isn’t Reddit, absolutely anyone who’s registered can down or upvote posts. This may include people who didn’t evaluate the post, people who are below the sanity line we’d wish of members of LW, sock puppets and of course, even for a decent rationalist, some posts may still elicit a strong emotional response, upon which we may be tempted to act. Sometimes we won’t even notice we did.
And for instance in the past two days I’ve seen quite a few posts downvoted because the people who made them weren’t acting like we would expect rationalists would, or simply weren’t nice and careful enough with their wording. I was tempted to upvote them on the idea that so long as such posts only represent a minority of the site’s output, rationalists could just use that as information, and update on it. Interesting cases of muddled thinking and biases to learn from.
I decided against it since I noticed this was mainly a rationalization, that my main motivation was rooted my desire to “help” in what I emotionally perceived as a case of “injustice”. On second thought I decided that the community’s vote should in most case be better than my opinion, unless I had a concrete, real reason to the contrary.
I rarely upvote anything, and almost never downvote anyway. I use the first to push up ideas I find interesting. I don’t usually find enough real good reasons to use the latter.
To get back to my point though, which are our safeguards against people operating multiple accounts, or who simply registered here without having a real idea of what was going on ?
The idea of not just voting, but also explaining why we choose one way or the other, seems interesting.
I’m usually pretty quick to downvote low-quality posts that I don’t want to see again, but which I’m afraid others will refrain from downvoting because the comment is also disagreeing with the groupthink and the others will start questioning their own correct quality judgment.
What should really get the upvotes are the high-quality comments that disagree with the groupthink. These are the precious heroic ones. Don’t set that standard too low!
I hope that there is a site admin running a few statistical tests to look for abuses of the system.
I hope there’s someone running a few statistical tests on the site admin.
Of course, if the site owner chooses to use it in a particular way, is that really abuse?