I ask this question as a way to attempt to reveal that we’re focusing on two different things with the notion of ‘freedom’. You associate “freedom” with “range of choices”. I associate “freedom” with “range of outcomes”.
Wow I don’t know if it was your intention but you just made the most concise/elegant distinction between libertarian free will (outcome) and Compatibilism free will (choice), Bravo!
But then have to ask: by range of outcomes do you mean expected range of outcomes or genuine range of outcomes (real in the sens that not even Laplace’s demon could know the outcome for sure?.)
Wow I don’t know if it was your intention but you just made the most concise/elegant distinction between libertarian free will (outcome) and Compatibilism free will (choice), Bravo!
That’s rather interesting, since I myself am a compatibilist and a physicalist. My phrasing was not meant to be an argument for libertinism over compatibilism / determinism, and in fact the definition of freedom as being associated with a greater range of available outcomes is entirely compatible with, well, compatibilism.
(real in the sens that not even Laplace’s demon could know the outcome for sure?.)
I do not ascribe to the notion that the universe is wholly deterministic anyhow, so Laplace’s demon would simply be too confused… although maybe he’ll know something we don’t.
to answer you more directly, I don’t know that there’s a material difference between “expected range of outcomes” and “genuine range of outcomes”, as I was speaking in the abstract anyhow.
Wow I don’t know if it was your intention but you just made the most concise/elegant distinction between libertarian free will (outcome) and Compatibilism free will (choice), Bravo!
But then have to ask: by range of outcomes do you mean expected range of outcomes or genuine range of outcomes (real in the sens that not even Laplace’s demon could know the outcome for sure?.)
That’s rather interesting, since I myself am a compatibilist and a physicalist. My phrasing was not meant to be an argument for libertinism over compatibilism / determinism, and in fact the definition of freedom as being associated with a greater range of available outcomes is entirely compatible with, well, compatibilism.
I do not ascribe to the notion that the universe is wholly deterministic anyhow, so Laplace’s demon would simply be too confused… although maybe he’ll know something we don’t.
to answer you more directly, I don’t know that there’s a material difference between “expected range of outcomes” and “genuine range of outcomes”, as I was speaking in the abstract anyhow.
But then what is the difference between “range of choices” and “expected range of outcomes”?
I get it! I’m a bit slow sometimes. Love the comic by the way!