Why are (b) and (d) not exceptions to your thesis, already?
FYI I am also pretty confused about this. Have you (Zack) previously noted something somewhere about “that’s coordination”… and… somehow wrapping that around to “but words are just for prediction anyway?”.
“That’s deception/wireheading” feels like a reasonable, key thing to be aware of. I think you’re maybe trying to build towards something like “and a lot of coordination is oriented around deception, and that’s bad, or suboptimal, or at least sad”, but not sure.
The newer “Unnatural Categories” post seemed to build towards that, but then completely ignored the question of nation-border category boundaries which seemed pretty key.
(Overall I feel pretty happy to watch you explore this entire line of reasoning deeply over the years and learn from it. I think intellectual progress depends a lot on people picking a bunch of assumptions and running with them deeply and then reporting their findings publicly. But I currently feel like there’s a pretty gaping hole in your arguments that have something-or-other-to-do-with “but, like, coordination tho”)
Have you (Zack) previously noted something somewhere about “that’s coordination”… and… somehow wrapping that around to “but words are just for prediction anyway?”.
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FYI I am also pretty confused about this. Have you (Zack) previously noted something somewhere about “that’s coordination”… and… somehow wrapping that around to “but words are just for prediction anyway?”.
“That’s deception/wireheading” feels like a reasonable, key thing to be aware of. I think you’re maybe trying to build towards something like “and a lot of coordination is oriented around deception, and that’s bad, or suboptimal, or at least sad”, but not sure.
The newer “Unnatural Categories” post seemed to build towards that, but then completely ignored the question of nation-border category boundaries which seemed pretty key.
(Overall I feel pretty happy to watch you explore this entire line of reasoning deeply over the years and learn from it. I think intellectual progress depends a lot on people picking a bunch of assumptions and running with them deeply and then reporting their findings publicly. But I currently feel like there’s a pretty gaping hole in your arguments that have something-or-other-to-do-with “but, like, coordination tho”)
Yes! You commented on it!
Have now re-read. Am actually a bit sad I didn’t notice that post to nominate it.
Whelp! Off to re-read. Thank you sir.