I do think that some kind of organisational cooperative structure would be needed even if everyone were friends—provided there are dragons left to slay. If people need to work together on dragonfighting, then just being friends won’t cut it—there will need to be some kind of team, and some people delegating different tasks to team members and coordinating efforts. Of course, if there aren’t dragons to slay, then there’s no need for us to work together and people can do whatever they like.
And yeah—the tradeoff would definitely need to be considered. If the AI told me, “Sorry, but I need to solve negentropy and if you try and help me you’re just going to slow me down to the point at which it becomes more likely that everyone dies”, I guess I would just have to deal with it. Making it more likely that everyone dies in the slow heat death of the universe is a terribly large price to pay for indulging my desire to fight things. It could be a tradeoff worth making, though, if it turns out that a significant number of people are aimless and unhappy unless they have a cause to fight for—we can explore the galaxy and fight negentropy and this will allow people like me to continue being motivated and fulfilled by our burning desire to fix things. It depends on whether people like me, with aforementioned burning desire, are a minority or a large majority. If a large majority of the human race feels listless and sad unless they have a quest to do, then it may be worthwhile letting us help even if it impedes the effort slightly.
And yeah—I’m not sure that just giving me more processor power and memory without changing my code counts as death, but simultaneously giving a human more processor power and more memory and not increasing their rationality sounds… silly and maybe not safe, so I guess it’ll have to be a gradual upgrade process in all of us. I quite like that idea though—it’s like having a second childhood, except this time you’re learning to remember every book in the library and fly with your jetpack-including robot feet, instead of just learning to walk and talk. I am totally up for that.
I do think that some kind of organisational cooperative structure would be needed even if everyone were friends...
We don’t need the state to organize. Look at all the private organizations out there.
It could be a tradeoff worth making, though, if it turns out that a significant number of people are aimless and unhappy unless they have a cause to fight for...
The cause might be something created artificially by the FAI. One idea I had is a universe with “pseudodeath” which doesn’t literally kill you but relocates you to another part of the universe which results in lose of connections with all people you knew. Like in Border Guards but involuntary, so that human communities have to fight with “nature” to survive.
One idea I had is a universe with “pseudodeath” which doesn’t literally kill you but relocates you to another part of the universe which results in lose of connections with all people you knew.
I do think that some kind of organisational cooperative structure would be needed even if everyone were friends—provided there are dragons left to slay. If people need to work together on dragonfighting, then just being friends won’t cut it—there will need to be some kind of team, and some people delegating different tasks to team members and coordinating efforts. Of course, if there aren’t dragons to slay, then there’s no need for us to work together and people can do whatever they like.
And yeah—the tradeoff would definitely need to be considered. If the AI told me, “Sorry, but I need to solve negentropy and if you try and help me you’re just going to slow me down to the point at which it becomes more likely that everyone dies”, I guess I would just have to deal with it. Making it more likely that everyone dies in the slow heat death of the universe is a terribly large price to pay for indulging my desire to fight things. It could be a tradeoff worth making, though, if it turns out that a significant number of people are aimless and unhappy unless they have a cause to fight for—we can explore the galaxy and fight negentropy and this will allow people like me to continue being motivated and fulfilled by our burning desire to fix things. It depends on whether people like me, with aforementioned burning desire, are a minority or a large majority. If a large majority of the human race feels listless and sad unless they have a quest to do, then it may be worthwhile letting us help even if it impedes the effort slightly.
And yeah—I’m not sure that just giving me more processor power and memory without changing my code counts as death, but simultaneously giving a human more processor power and more memory and not increasing their rationality sounds… silly and maybe not safe, so I guess it’ll have to be a gradual upgrade process in all of us. I quite like that idea though—it’s like having a second childhood, except this time you’re learning to remember every book in the library and fly with your jetpack-including robot feet, instead of just learning to walk and talk. I am totally up for that.
We don’t need the state to organize. Look at all the private organizations out there.
The cause might be something created artificially by the FAI. One idea I had is a universe with “pseudodeath” which doesn’t literally kill you but relocates you to another part of the universe which results in lose of connections with all people you knew. Like in Border Guards but involuntary, so that human communities have to fight with “nature” to survive.
Sort of a cosmic witness relocation program! :).