Talking about how angry I am about them IRL gets me labelled weird, and with my family, told to shut up or I’ll be kicked out of the room/car/conversation/etc.
Where you live is more then just your immediate family.
You also assume that I oppose ‘perfectly valid Bayesian inference’, as if that’s the only thing that can be meant by opposing racism and sexism.
Well technically one could define “sexism” and “racism” however one wants; however, in practice that’s not how most people who oppose them use the words.
but a lot of people have trouble on updating on the fact that the individual they’re faced with doesn’t fit the trend.
That’s because usually the individual does fit the trend. In fact these days people tend to under update for fear of being called “racist” and/or “sexist”.
I don’t know why you automatically leap to assuming that I am really angry about, say, people reading studies comparing male and female IQs when what I’m actually angry about is,
So are you also angry about what happened to Watson?
say, people beating LBGTQA+ individuals to death in dark alleys (which I am presuming you would not defend).
Are you also angry about people beating people without those psychological issues in dark alleys? The latter is much more common. Are you angry about, say, what happened in Rotherham and the ideology that lead to it being cover up? What about all the black on black violence in inner cities that no one seems to care about and cops don’t want to stop for fear of being called “racist” when they disproportionately arrest black defendants.
Some people use a slight statistical trend indicating a small difference in X to say that all members of a minority must be completely lacking in X and therefore it’s okay to hate them.
Do you know what the word “hate” means? I’ve seen it thrown around to apply to lot’s of situations where there is no actual hate involved. Furthermore, in the rare cases where I’ve seen actual hate, well like you yourself said latter “emotion is arational” and hate is sometimes appropriate.
I’m a utilitarian.
Yet earlier you said “I’m against beatings and murder in general, really.” Do you see the contradiction here? Do you some beatings and killings [your example wasn’t murder since it was legal] even if they increase utility?
I am angry about everyone who has ever been beaten up in a dark alley. I think people should not be beaten up in dark alleys. I am angry about racism and sexism and homophobia and transphobia because they seem significant causes of people being beaten up in dark alleys
I agree they “seem” that way if you only superficially read the news. If you pay closer attention one notices that (at least in the US) fear of being precised as “racist” is a much larger cause of people being beaten up in dark alleys (and occasionally in broad daylight). It is the reason why cops don’t want to police high crime (black) neighborhoods, why programs that successfully reduce crime (like stop and frisk) are terminated.
Hatred of human beings is almost never appropriate. Hatred of things is fine.
I would argue the exact opposite. Hatred and anger evolved as methods that let us pre-commit to revenge/punishment by getting around the “once the offense has happened it’s no longer in one’s interest to carry out the punishment” problem. They do this by sabotaging one’s reasoning process to keep one from noticing that carrying out the punishment is not in one’s interest. Applied against things, i.e., anything that can’t be motivated by fear of punishment, all one gets is the partially sabotaged reasoning process without any countervailing benefits.
In fact, I don’t think it’s possible to be angry at a ‘thing’ like a disease. In order to do so one must either anthropomorphize the disease or actually get angry at some people (like say those people who refuse to give enough money to research for curing it).
Where you live is more then just your immediate family.
Well technically one could define “sexism” and “racism” however one wants; however, in practice that’s not how most people who oppose them use the words.
That’s because usually the individual does fit the trend. In fact these days people tend to under update for fear of being called “racist” and/or “sexist”.
So are you also angry about what happened to Watson?
Are you also angry about people beating people without those psychological issues in dark alleys? The latter is much more common. Are you angry about, say, what happened in Rotherham and the ideology that lead to it being cover up? What about all the black on black violence in inner cities that no one seems to care about and cops don’t want to stop for fear of being called “racist” when they disproportionately arrest black defendants.
Do you know what the word “hate” means? I’ve seen it thrown around to apply to lot’s of situations where there is no actual hate involved. Furthermore, in the rare cases where I’ve seen actual hate, well like you yourself said latter “emotion is arational” and hate is sometimes appropriate.
Yet earlier you said “I’m against beatings and murder in general, really.” Do you see the contradiction here? Do you some beatings and killings [your example wasn’t murder since it was legal] even if they increase utility?
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I agree they “seem” that way if you only superficially read the news. If you pay closer attention one notices that (at least in the US) fear of being precised as “racist” is a much larger cause of people being beaten up in dark alleys (and occasionally in broad daylight). It is the reason why cops don’t want to police high crime (black) neighborhoods, why programs that successfully reduce crime (like stop and frisk) are terminated.
I would argue the exact opposite. Hatred and anger evolved as methods that let us pre-commit to revenge/punishment by getting around the “once the offense has happened it’s no longer in one’s interest to carry out the punishment” problem. They do this by sabotaging one’s reasoning process to keep one from noticing that carrying out the punishment is not in one’s interest. Applied against things, i.e., anything that can’t be motivated by fear of punishment, all one gets is the partially sabotaged reasoning process without any countervailing benefits.
In fact, I don’t think it’s possible to be angry at a ‘thing’ like a disease. In order to do so one must either anthropomorphize the disease or actually get angry at some people (like say those people who refuse to give enough money to research for curing it).