Is there any way to improve the filter so that we get more ambition from benign people without just saying everyone should try to change the world, even if they’re Osama bin Laden?
I think it’s hard to think about people like Osama bin Laden because there’s a lot of spin around him. It’s worth to read Gwern’s post about terrorism http://www.gwern.net/Terrorism%20is%20not%20Effective .
Osama Bin Ladin likely spent ten millions of dollars but still only invested 500k into 9/11 and didn’t spent another 500k the next year to get a similar attack.
Then it’s worth thinking about psychopaths. They don’t seem to be motivated by having a long term vision of having something to protect. Eliezer made it Harry’s power that the dark lord hasn’t. Finding something to care about seems to be part of the CFAR curriculum. It’s not something that a psychopaths can simply do.
Having social norms of high physical contact likely produces an enviroment in which psychopaths don’t feel well and rather want to stay out.
Having social norms of high physical contact likely produces an enviroment in which psychopaths don’t feel well
I’d like to have some source on this.
From what I heard about psychopaths, they are uncomfortable with describing their feelings, because their feelings are different from the neurotypical person; and they don’t want to be exposed. (Ironically, various group therapy sessions with neurotypical people in the group solve this problems for psychopaths, because they get enough data so they can better fake having the usual feelings.) But I haven’t heard anything about physical contact.
Ironically, various group therapy sessions with neurotypical people in the group solve this problems for psychopaths, because they get enough data so they can better fake having the usual feelings.
That’s true for standard group therapy where people just pay attention to the words that are spoken and how they are spoken. As a result standard group therapy done in prisons seems to raise
On the other hand it’s very hard to fake emotions when hugging another person who is perceptive because the person can use their hands to feel what’s going on inside your body. A person is effectively exposed in a good hug.
I think it’s hard to think about people like Osama bin Laden because there’s a lot of spin around him. It’s worth to read Gwern’s post about terrorism http://www.gwern.net/Terrorism%20is%20not%20Effective . Osama Bin Ladin likely spent ten millions of dollars but still only invested 500k into 9/11 and didn’t spent another 500k the next year to get a similar attack.
Then it’s worth thinking about psychopaths. They don’t seem to be motivated by having a long term vision of having something to protect. Eliezer made it Harry’s power that the dark lord hasn’t. Finding something to care about seems to be part of the CFAR curriculum. It’s not something that a psychopaths can simply do. Having social norms of high physical contact likely produces an enviroment in which psychopaths don’t feel well and rather want to stay out.
I’d like to have some source on this.
From what I heard about psychopaths, they are uncomfortable with describing their feelings, because their feelings are different from the neurotypical person; and they don’t want to be exposed. (Ironically, various group therapy sessions with neurotypical people in the group solve this problems for psychopaths, because they get enough data so they can better fake having the usual feelings.) But I haven’t heard anything about physical contact.
At the moment I didn’t find good sources so I opened a Stackoverflow question.
That’s true for standard group therapy where people just pay attention to the words that are spoken and how they are spoken. As a result standard group therapy done in prisons seems to raise
On the other hand it’s very hard to fake emotions when hugging another person who is perceptive because the person can use their hands to feel what’s going on inside your body. A person is effectively exposed in a good hug.