I think the paradox goes away with better models of “know” and “inquire”. Neither knowing nor not-knowing is an actual state one can have. There is only a multiplicity of models with varying degrees of applicability to some predicted experience. You CAN solicit updates and use experiences to update your models and your meta-model of the applicability of those models to specific questions.
That’s a very interesting train of thought. Would you like to expand on that a bit? Please read my reply to @localdeity (vide supra). How did we make that saltus from literally everything being an unknown unknown to (some) known knowns?
My preferred frame is different from that—no strict categories of known unknown unknown knowns or however many epicycles they’re up to. Not even a requirement that “truth” have any objective meaning (though there seems to be a consistency in my experiences that makes it a convenient model for most predictions).
You don’t know anything. You have a lot of models of things, which are all wrong in various ways, but still useful for many predictions. You can update the models and the weights within those models as you make observations, which makes them “less wrong”, as the saying goes. For humans, it’s probably not even asymtotic in predictive ability, it’s just overfitting to more recent history.
That’s ok, different folks, different strokes. Yet, in the world in which this paradox lives, it is a mystery how we went/progressed from an absolute unknonw unknown state to where we are now, knowns, known knowns, known unknowns, oui? Do you have a hypothesis as to how this happened?
I think the paradox goes away with better models of “know” and “inquire”. Neither knowing nor not-knowing is an actual state one can have. There is only a multiplicity of models with varying degrees of applicability to some predicted experience. You CAN solicit updates and use experiences to update your models and your meta-model of the applicability of those models to specific questions.
That’s a very interesting train of thought. Would you like to expand on that a bit? Please read my reply to @localdeity (vide supra). How did we make that saltus from literally everything being an unknown unknown to (some) known knowns?
My preferred frame is different from that—no strict categories of known unknown unknown knowns or however many epicycles they’re up to. Not even a requirement that “truth” have any objective meaning (though there seems to be a consistency in my experiences that makes it a convenient model for most predictions).
You don’t know anything. You have a lot of models of things, which are all wrong in various ways, but still useful for many predictions. You can update the models and the weights within those models as you make observations, which makes them “less wrong”, as the saying goes. For humans, it’s probably not even asymtotic in predictive ability, it’s just overfitting to more recent history.
That’s ok, different folks, different strokes. Yet, in the world in which this paradox lives, it is a mystery how we went/progressed from an absolute unknonw unknown state to where we are now, knowns, known knowns, known unknowns, oui? Do you have a hypothesis as to how this happened?