ETA: Retracted this as it was based on a typo in the parent.
FW and MR are indefensible in non naive forms
My understanding of Eliezer’s positions on both of these in that they fall under the umbrella of non-naive forms of FW and MR. So they are in fact defended, and not only by Eliezer, but by many prominent intellectual figures. You need only look up the usual encyclopedic sources for a list of names. So as a matter of empirical fact, serious people take them seriously, whether to agree or disagree. That is, they are defensible.
Perhaps what you mean is not “indefensible” but merely “wrong”?
ETA: Retracted this as it was based on a typo in the parent.
My understanding of Eliezer’s positions on both of these in that they fall under the umbrella of non-naive forms of FW and MR. So they are in fact defended, and not only by Eliezer, but by many prominent intellectual figures. You need only look up the usual encyclopedic sources for a list of names. So as a matter of empirical fact, serious people take them seriously, whether to agree or disagree. That is, they are defensible.
Perhaps what you mean is not “indefensible” but merely “wrong”?
I meant defensible. Edited.