This is of interest to me. I haven’t expressed interest because I didn’t know about it.
Previously (pre-LW in fact) I’ve had an interest in using Semantic Wikis for the purpose of controversy mapping. Basing this type of work on a wiki makes sense to me, either in the context of controversy mapping a la MACOSPOL or in the context of trying to clarify my own thinking about cryonics.
Although (perhaps because) I used to love programming for fun, I have become a strong skeptic of just going off and implementing features on the off chance that the result will be somewhat useful. The code that’s easiest to debug is the code you never write. My default move when thinking about doing something with technology is, “What can we possibly do that doesn’t require implementing anything new?”
So, I would gladly volunteer to start “porting” my map of the cryonics debate to a Scenarios Map format, and report back with any issues I encounter. Offhand I feel that creating Wiki pages “by hand” might be the bottleneck, but I’m up to testing that.
Before I started the Scenarios project, I checked out the semantic wikis that were available, and concluded that none of them were able to do what I was trying to do with the scenarios project.
Though I might as well admit that part of the reason why I went ahead and started coding this was just for fun.
Thanks for offering to help try this out!
My Skype ID is PeerInfinity, please feel free to contact me any time I’m online.
Though we shouldn’t need to make all of the wiki pages by hand. We should have some sort of automated tool that generates most of the content on the wiki pages from an annotated chat log, like that experiment I tried.
I think the way this tool should work is that it should scan a wiki page containing the annotated conversation, and generate an XML file in the format used by MediaWiki’s import tool. Then someone with admin access to the wiki can import the XML file using the import tool, or a regular user can manually copy the data from the XML file to the wiki.
Have you used PHP before?
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And as for posting this idea as an actual post...
Maybe before I do that, I should make some of the changes I mentioned to the project, and actually try using it on an example argument or two.
Thinking about this project some more, it seems like these argument maps will fit in nicely with the scenarios map. Maps of arguments that a scenario will happen will fit in nicely with maps of things that could cause or prevent the scenario.
Or maybe if there are too many links, then everything will look all tangled… I guess one way to find out is to try it and see what happens...
Maybe before I try to post this comment as an actual post, I should make some of the changes I mentioned to the project, and actually try using it on an example argument or two.
Tidy up: in favor. :)
This is of interest to me. I haven’t expressed interest because I didn’t know about it.
Previously (pre-LW in fact) I’ve had an interest in using Semantic Wikis for the purpose of controversy mapping. Basing this type of work on a wiki makes sense to me, either in the context of controversy mapping a la MACOSPOL or in the context of trying to clarify my own thinking about cryonics.
Although (perhaps because) I used to love programming for fun, I have become a strong skeptic of just going off and implementing features on the off chance that the result will be somewhat useful. The code that’s easiest to debug is the code you never write. My default move when thinking about doing something with technology is, “What can we possibly do that doesn’t require implementing anything new?”
So, I would gladly volunteer to start “porting” my map of the cryonics debate to a Scenarios Map format, and report back with any issues I encounter. Offhand I feel that creating Wiki pages “by hand” might be the bottleneck, but I’m up to testing that.
Yay, finally some feedback!
Thanks :)
Before I started the Scenarios project, I checked out the semantic wikis that were available, and concluded that none of them were able to do what I was trying to do with the scenarios project.
Though I might as well admit that part of the reason why I went ahead and started coding this was just for fun.
Thanks for offering to help try this out!
My Skype ID is PeerInfinity, please feel free to contact me any time I’m online.
Though we shouldn’t need to make all of the wiki pages by hand. We should have some sort of automated tool that generates most of the content on the wiki pages from an annotated chat log, like that experiment I tried.
I think the way this tool should work is that it should scan a wiki page containing the annotated conversation, and generate an XML file in the format used by MediaWiki’s import tool. Then someone with admin access to the wiki can import the XML file using the import tool, or a regular user can manually copy the data from the XML file to the wiki.
Have you used PHP before?
...
And as for posting this idea as an actual post...
Maybe before I do that, I should make some of the changes I mentioned to the project, and actually try using it on an example argument or two.
I guess I’ll use your cryonics argument and that other example argument.
...
Thinking about this project some more, it seems like these argument maps will fit in nicely with the scenarios map. Maps of arguments that a scenario will happen will fit in nicely with maps of things that could cause or prevent the scenario.
Or maybe if there are too many links, then everything will look all tangled… I guess one way to find out is to try it and see what happens...
Maybe before I try to post this comment as an actual post, I should make some of the changes I mentioned to the project, and actually try using it on an example argument or two.
I guess I’ll use your cryonics argument and that other example argument.