Asking “Now, notwithstanding the above, does 2+2 really equal 4, independent of any human thoughts about it?” requires human thoughts. There would still be four bananas without anyone to count them because I’m here imagining that world in my human thoughts. It’s like trying to imagine what death feels like. You fail by trying. Just like the Game (muhahaha!).
Asking “Now, notwithstanding the above, does 2+2 really equal 4, independent of any human thoughts about it?” requires human thoughts. There would still be four bananas without anyone to count them because I’m here imagining that world in my human thoughts. It’s like trying to imagine what death feels like. You fail by trying. Just like the Game (muhahaha!).