-If you do have some notion of moral patienthood, what properties do you think are important for moral patienthood?
I don’t know. If I need to decide, I would probably use some “similarity to human mind” metrics. Maybe I would think about complexity of thoughts in the language of human concepts or something. And I probably could be persuaded in the importance of many other things. Also I can’t really stop on just determining who is moral patient—I start thinking what exactly to value about them and that is complicated by me being (currently interested in counterarguments against being) indifferent to suffering and only counting good things.
Do you think we face uncertainty about whether animals or AIs have these properties?
Yes for “similarity to human mind”—we don’t have precise enough knowledge about AI’s or animals mind. But now it sounds like I’ve only chosen these properties to not be certain. In the end I think moral uncertainty plays more important role than factual uncertainty here—we already can be certain that very high-level low-resolution models of human consciousness generalize to anything from animals to couple lines of python.
I don’t know. If I need to decide, I would probably use some “similarity to human mind” metrics. Maybe I would think about complexity of thoughts in the language of human concepts or something. And I probably could be persuaded in the importance of many other things. Also I can’t really stop on just determining who is moral patient—I start thinking what exactly to value about them and that is complicated by me being (currently interested in counterarguments against being) indifferent to suffering and only counting good things.
Yes for “similarity to human mind”—we don’t have precise enough knowledge about AI’s or animals mind. But now it sounds like I’ve only chosen these properties to not be certain. In the end I think moral uncertainty plays more important role than factual uncertainty here—we already can be certain that very high-level low-resolution models of human consciousness generalize to anything from animals to couple lines of python.