Another point, I don’t think that Joe was endorsing the “yet deeper atheism”, just exploring it as a possible way of orienting. So I think that he could take the same fork in the argument, denying that humans have ultimately dissimilar values in the same way that future AI systems might.
Even so, it seems valuable to explore the implications of the idea presented in the post, even if the post author did not endorse the idea fully. I personally think the alternative view—that humans naturally converge on very similar values—is highly unlikely to be true, and as Joe wrote, seems to be a “thus-far-undefended empirical hypothesis – and one that, absent a defense, might prompt questions, from the atheists, about wishful thinking”.
Another point, I don’t think that Joe was endorsing the “yet deeper atheism”, just exploring it as a possible way of orienting. So I think that he could take the same fork in the argument, denying that humans have ultimately dissimilar values in the same way that future AI systems might.
Even so, it seems valuable to explore the implications of the idea presented in the post, even if the post author did not endorse the idea fully. I personally think the alternative view—that humans naturally converge on very similar values—is highly unlikely to be true, and as Joe wrote, seems to be a “thus-far-undefended empirical hypothesis – and one that, absent a defense, might prompt questions, from the atheists, about wishful thinking”.