I disagreed with that because it appears the difference between chimps and humans is that humans are better at social things, including modeling other humans. Chimps can learn, but they don’t teach- probably because they don’t understand that their children can learn.
The claim you’re making seems subtler- that if you divide a chimp’s ability to model reality by a human’s, you’ll get a lower fraction than if you divide a chimp’s ability to model chimps by a human’s ability to model humans. I don’t know enough about their ability to model reality, but the impression I get is that chimps are pretty clever.
Chimps can learn, but they don’t teach- probably because they don’t understand that their children can learn.
Citation needed—this seems to disagree, and, more generally, I would expect the ability to learn to go hand in hand with the ability to teach. Anybody whose cat had kittens knows that teaching exists in animals.
From what I’ve read in Chimpanzee Politics, I got the impression that chimps are pretty good at modeling other chips (better than many other primates), so I wouldn’t be ″that″ sure that the relative increase in humans was greater in the ability to model peers than in the ability to model reality (though most likely it is).
Citation needed—this seems to disagree, and, more generally, I would expect the ability to learn to go hand in hand with the ability to teach. Anybody whose cat had kittens knows that teaching exists in animals.
My cat used to teach us how to catch mice. It was adorable!
Citation needed—this seems to disagree, and, more generally, I would expect the ability to learn to go hand in hand with the ability to teach.
That seems to suggest that teaching is rare among chimpanzees near the end. Regardless, I’m not a zoologist, and my model of chimps is fuzzy. It may be that someone was commenting just about male chimps and I extended that to all chimps, or that most chimps don’t teach except for this variety, or a number of other options.
(I didn’t downvote the grandparent.)
I disagreed with that because it appears the difference between chimps and humans is that humans are better at social things, including modeling other humans. Chimps can learn, but they don’t teach- probably because they don’t understand that their children can learn.
The claim you’re making seems subtler- that if you divide a chimp’s ability to model reality by a human’s, you’ll get a lower fraction than if you divide a chimp’s ability to model chimps by a human’s ability to model humans. I don’t know enough about their ability to model reality, but the impression I get is that chimps are pretty clever.
Citation needed—this seems to disagree, and, more generally, I would expect the ability to learn to go hand in hand with the ability to teach. Anybody whose cat had kittens knows that teaching exists in animals.
From what I’ve read in Chimpanzee Politics, I got the impression that chimps are pretty good at modeling other chips (better than many other primates), so I wouldn’t be ″that″ sure that the relative increase in humans was greater in the ability to model peers than in the ability to model reality (though most likely it is).
My cat used to teach us how to catch mice. It was adorable!
Upvoted for adorable.
That seems to suggest that teaching is rare among chimpanzees near the end. Regardless, I’m not a zoologist, and my model of chimps is fuzzy. It may be that someone was commenting just about male chimps and I extended that to all chimps, or that most chimps don’t teach except for this variety, or a number of other options.