It’s the same if you have ever tried to learn a new language. Typically you can understand much more people who are fluent speaking than you can actually say, even though when you recieve the words, you’re processing them with the same brain that you produce the words with.
But can you think fluidly in a language you can’t speak fluidly? It doesn’t follow from being able to understand more than you can articulate that you speak only a small fraction of the words you can think, as byrnema implies. It sounds more like the process of articulation and understanding are decoupled.
Note: assumption made that thought is in a particular language.
I can speak English and am learning Esperanto. When I think of the referent known by the English pointer “dog” my mind most strongly associates the pointer “dog” and much less strongly the pointer “hundo”.
But as per internal narratives? I’d agree, yes, that articulating words, whether in an internal narrative or externally spoken, is separate from understanding.
I think what byrnema is saying is that they don’t articulate their running internal narrative. They are developing an internal narrative along with the worldess-concept kind of thought that is already in place.
This is receptive language versus productive language.
It’s the same if you have ever tried to learn a new language. Typically you can understand much more people who are fluent speaking than you can actually say, even though when you recieve the words, you’re processing them with the same brain that you produce the words with.
But can you think fluidly in a language you can’t speak fluidly? It doesn’t follow from being able to understand more than you can articulate that you speak only a small fraction of the words you can think, as byrnema implies. It sounds more like the process of articulation and understanding are decoupled.
Note: assumption made that thought is in a particular language.
I can speak English and am learning Esperanto. When I think of the referent known by the English pointer “dog” my mind most strongly associates the pointer “dog” and much less strongly the pointer “hundo”.
But as per internal narratives? I’d agree, yes, that articulating words, whether in an internal narrative or externally spoken, is separate from understanding.
I think what byrnema is saying is that they don’t articulate their running internal narrative. They are developing an internal narrative along with the worldess-concept kind of thought that is already in place.