Nietzsche’s good doesn’t correlate well with “evil”. It correlates well with “valuable as an ally, harmful as an enemy”, but it’s hostile to explicit rules, which it sees as hostile constraints, and to most large-scale cooperation (though Hitler wasn’t).
Most Anarchism aims at fairly radical cultural change.
Worth noting that Nietzsche’s “good” isn’t even paired with “evil”. He rejects the good-evil distinction as a product of slave morality, which is characterized by weakness, resentment and self-deception. Nietzsche want to revive the good-bad distinction, in which what is good is powerful and vitalizing and what is bad is weak and worthless. What he really wants, though, is great men (and it is men with Nietzsche) to create their own moralities.
Identifying Hitler with Nietzsche can definitely be deceptive and is unfair to Nietzsche (which doesn’t mean the latter was a great guy).
I’m not identifying Hitler with Nietzsche. I was talking about Hitler, and Hitler’s conception of good and bad (which I can only speculate on, but it’s safe to say his “good” correlates well with “evil”). I said he “takes more from Nietzsche”.
I can see why you would say that, it signals good things about you. I can also see however why people downvoted this.
Hitler (and many Nazis in general) loved animals, was against smoking and excesive indulgence (the reason for his vegetarianism). They regarded the Communist system as a vile perversion while criticizing the capitalist systems poor treatment of the working class. They valued a pastoral ideal of a green land inhabited by good German pesant folk living simple but relativley comfortable lives on their farms with large regions set aside as nature reserves. They valued a classical family structure and affordability of housing and living for these families. They where recless romantics in their vision of an idealized past and a distant future that could only be acheived by heroic sacrifice in a perhaps futile battle for the very soul of mankind against the forces of entropy, sicknes and decay led by and personified by group of malevolent agents.
The above in itself dosen’t correlate well with evil at all, actually something like the above may be critically nesecary if there where to exist a ecology of transhuman beings (perhaps some not built after human preferences?) and we wished to protect the values we hold dear as far as possible into the future.
There are however quite few bits of Nazi ideology we can easily identify as “evil”, like their identification of Jews with the aformentioned group of malevolent agents and Gypsies as parasites or puting very low value on the desires and interests of Eastern Europena Slavs considering there being nothing wrong with taking their land or even culling their population.
The love for conflict and idealizing the warror or crusader ethos is more multilayered and conflicting but considering how strong a currency it holds even in the modern world, I can assume this is closer to neutral than outright evil.
Nietzsche’s good doesn’t correlate well with “evil”. It correlates well with “valuable as an ally, harmful as an enemy”, but it’s hostile to explicit rules, which it sees as hostile constraints, and to most large-scale cooperation (though Hitler wasn’t).
Most Anarchism aims at fairly radical cultural change.
Worth noting that Nietzsche’s “good” isn’t even paired with “evil”. He rejects the good-evil distinction as a product of slave morality, which is characterized by weakness, resentment and self-deception. Nietzsche want to revive the good-bad distinction, in which what is good is powerful and vitalizing and what is bad is weak and worthless. What he really wants, though, is great men (and it is men with Nietzsche) to create their own moralities.
Identifying Hitler with Nietzsche can definitely be deceptive and is unfair to Nietzsche (which doesn’t mean the latter was a great guy).
I’m not identifying Hitler with Nietzsche. I was talking about Hitler, and Hitler’s conception of good and bad (which I can only speculate on, but it’s safe to say his “good” correlates well with “evil”). I said he “takes more from Nietzsche”.
Hitler’s good correlates well with “evil”.
I can see why you would say that, it signals good things about you. I can also see however why people downvoted this.
Hitler (and many Nazis in general) loved animals, was against smoking and excesive indulgence (the reason for his vegetarianism). They regarded the Communist system as a vile perversion while criticizing the capitalist systems poor treatment of the working class. They valued a pastoral ideal of a green land inhabited by good German pesant folk living simple but relativley comfortable lives on their farms with large regions set aside as nature reserves. They valued a classical family structure and affordability of housing and living for these families. They where recless romantics in their vision of an idealized past and a distant future that could only be acheived by heroic sacrifice in a perhaps futile battle for the very soul of mankind against the forces of entropy, sicknes and decay led by and personified by group of malevolent agents.
The above in itself dosen’t correlate well with evil at all, actually something like the above may be critically nesecary if there where to exist a ecology of transhuman beings (perhaps some not built after human preferences?) and we wished to protect the values we hold dear as far as possible into the future.
There are however quite few bits of Nazi ideology we can easily identify as “evil”, like their identification of Jews with the aformentioned group of malevolent agents and Gypsies as parasites or puting very low value on the desires and interests of Eastern Europena Slavs considering there being nothing wrong with taking their land or even culling their population.
The love for conflict and idealizing the warror or crusader ethos is more multilayered and conflicting but considering how strong a currency it holds even in the modern world, I can assume this is closer to neutral than outright evil.