To be honest I’m not sure whether its relevant since I don’t understand why you consider that aspect of MoR problematic. To help me understand could you answer the following questions:
1) Would you consider the relative power levels of the characters in MoR problematic on their own (without reference to canon).
2) Would you consider an independent work that realistically portrayed the relative abilities of men and women problematic?
3) What if it realistically dealt with the consequences of those differences, including that their lesser strength makes it easier for villains to stuff women into fridges.
You really do seem to like downvoting people you disagree with. Interesting. How mindkilled are you? And you didn’t provide the question explanation.
I’m not sure what you mean by question 1. But assuming you mean, something like “If HPMoR existed in in a world without Harry Potter, would the gender issues be problematic” the answer would be yes, because all the other important male characters are substantially more resourceful than the female ones, and because of Hermione’s death and the events surrounding it.
Question 2- No. Please don’t be stupid.
Question 3- Are you seriously trying to implicitly argue that the literal on average physical difference between human males and human females is at all relevant here? Because it seems like you are trying to make such a connection. That’s both silly (for reasons I already explained to you), and stupid for other reasons: villains in stories have things like wands and guns. They don’t need to physically stuff someone into a fridge while they are fighting back. If you think I’m misinterpreting your third point, I’d be interested in hearing an explanation, but frankly, I assign a very high probability that you are hopelessly mindkilled, which is unfortunate because everyone else in this conversation was having a nice, interesting conversation. I thought that skeptical_lurker brought up some very good points as did Nancy.
That is a delightfully awful question. The more I think about it, the more it becomes clear that there’s no hope of an accurate answer if you include the presupposition that the person being asked is actually somewhat mindkilled.
I’m not sure. At least twice before I’ve gotten that question or a variant of it thrown to me and it helped strongly reevaluate my attitude on the issue in question. Possibly I’m generalizing from one example too much?
Actually, I was probably being too literal about the question because the logical paradox struck me as funny.
I will blame an ambiguity which I think is built into English. “How mindkilled are you?” can imply that you’re mindkilled in some sense which is stable over a period of time, or it can imply that you were mindkilled recently but have a capacity to come out of it.
Are you seriously trying to implicitly argue that the literal on average physical difference between human males and human females is at all relevant here?
Yes, it certainly is for how this trope applies in the real world, as well as the resulting evolved associated feelings in humans. And since you are making your case with reference to the distribution of tropes in other literature, I thought this was very relevant.
That’s both silly (for reasons I already explained to you)
Really, where?
I thought that skeptical_lurker brought up some very good points as did Nancy.
What you mean is that they disagreed with you without questioning your basic premise.
To be honest I’m not sure whether its relevant since I don’t understand why you consider that aspect of MoR problematic. To help me understand could you answer the following questions:
1) Would you consider the relative power levels of the characters in MoR problematic on their own (without reference to canon).
2) Would you consider an independent work that realistically portrayed the relative abilities of men and women problematic?
3) What if it realistically dealt with the consequences of those differences, including that their lesser strength makes it easier for villains to stuff women into fridges.
You really do seem to like downvoting people you disagree with. Interesting. How mindkilled are you? And you didn’t provide the question explanation.
I’m not sure what you mean by question 1. But assuming you mean, something like “If HPMoR existed in in a world without Harry Potter, would the gender issues be problematic” the answer would be yes, because all the other important male characters are substantially more resourceful than the female ones, and because of Hermione’s death and the events surrounding it.
Question 2- No. Please don’t be stupid.
Question 3- Are you seriously trying to implicitly argue that the literal on average physical difference between human males and human females is at all relevant here? Because it seems like you are trying to make such a connection. That’s both silly (for reasons I already explained to you), and stupid for other reasons: villains in stories have things like wands and guns. They don’t need to physically stuff someone into a fridge while they are fighting back. If you think I’m misinterpreting your third point, I’d be interested in hearing an explanation, but frankly, I assign a very high probability that you are hopelessly mindkilled, which is unfortunate because everyone else in this conversation was having a nice, interesting conversation. I thought that skeptical_lurker brought up some very good points as did Nancy.
That is a delightfully awful question. The more I think about it, the more it becomes clear that there’s no hope of an accurate answer if you include the presupposition that the person being asked is actually somewhat mindkilled.
I’m not sure. At least twice before I’ve gotten that question or a variant of it thrown to me and it helped strongly reevaluate my attitude on the issue in question. Possibly I’m generalizing from one example too much?
Actually, I was probably being too literal about the question because the logical paradox struck me as funny.
I will blame an ambiguity which I think is built into English. “How mindkilled are you?” can imply that you’re mindkilled in some sense which is stable over a period of time, or it can imply that you were mindkilled recently but have a capacity to come out of it.
Yes, it certainly is for how this trope applies in the real world, as well as the resulting evolved associated feelings in humans. And since you are making your case with reference to the distribution of tropes in other literature, I thought this was very relevant.
Really, where?
What you mean is that they disagreed with you without questioning your basic premise.