Trolls are different than dicks. Your first two examples are plausibly trolling. The second two are being a dick and have nothing to do with paperclips. They have also been deleted. And how does the account provide “cover”? The comments you linked to were voted down, just as if they were drive-bys; and neither troll hooked anyone.
Trolls seek to engage; I consider that when deliberate dickery is accompanied by other trolling, it’s just another attempt to troll.The dickish comments weren’t deleted when I made the post. As for “cover”, I guess I wasn’t explicit enough, but the phrase “throw-away account” is the key to understanding what I meant. I strongly suspect that the “Clippy” account is a sock puppet run by another (unknown to me) regular commenter, who avoid downvotes while indulging in dickery.
I’ve always thought Clippy was just a funny inside joke—thought unfortunately not always optimally funny. (Lose the Microsoft stuff, and stick to ethical subtleties and hints about scrap metal.)
Sorry I wasn’t clear. The deletion suggests that Clippy regrets the straight insults (though it could have been an administrator).
A permanent Clippy account provides no more cover than multiple accounts that are actually thrown away. In that situation, the comments would be there, voted down just the same. Banning or ostracizing Clippy doesn’t do much about the individual comments. Clippy does represent an investment with reputation to lose—people didn’t engage originally and two of Clippy’s early comments were voted down that wouldn’t be now.
The deletion suggests that Clippy regrets the straight insults
I won’t speculate as to its motives, but it is a hopeful sign for future behavior. And thank you for pointing out that the comments were deleted; I don’t think I’d have noticed otherwise.
Most of my affect is due to Clippy’s bad first impression. I can’t deny that people seem to get something out of engaging it; if Clippy is moderating its behavior, too, then I can’t really get too exercised going forward. But I still don’t trust its good intentions.
Trolls are different than dicks. Your first two examples are plausibly trolling. The second two are being a dick and have nothing to do with paperclips. They have also been deleted. And how does the account provide “cover”? The comments you linked to were voted down, just as if they were drive-bys; and neither troll hooked anyone.
Trolls seek to engage; I consider that when deliberate dickery is accompanied by other trolling, it’s just another attempt to troll.The dickish comments weren’t deleted when I made the post. As for “cover”, I guess I wasn’t explicit enough, but the phrase “throw-away account” is the key to understanding what I meant. I strongly suspect that the “Clippy” account is a sock puppet run by another (unknown to me) regular commenter, who avoid downvotes while indulging in dickery.
I’ve always thought Clippy was just a funny inside joke—thought unfortunately not always optimally funny. (Lose the Microsoft stuff, and stick to ethical subtleties and hints about scrap metal.)
Sorry I wasn’t clear. The deletion suggests that Clippy regrets the straight insults (though it could have been an administrator).
A permanent Clippy account provides no more cover than multiple accounts that are actually thrown away. In that situation, the comments would be there, voted down just the same. Banning or ostracizing Clippy doesn’t do much about the individual comments. Clippy does represent an investment with reputation to lose—people didn’t engage originally and two of Clippy’s early comments were voted down that wouldn’t be now.
I won’t speculate as to its motives, but it is a hopeful sign for future behavior. And thank you for pointing out that the comments were deleted; I don’t think I’d have noticed otherwise.
Most of my affect is due to Clippy’s bad first impression. I can’t deny that people seem to get something out of engaging it; if Clippy is moderating its behavior, too, then I can’t really get too exercised going forward. But I still don’t trust its good intentions.