“You are kidnapped from Hogwartss to public location, many witnesssess, wardss keep out protectorss. Dark Lord announcess that he hass at long lasst regained physical form, after wandering as sspirit for yearss; ssayss that he hass gained sstill greater power, not even you can sstop him now. Offerss to let you duel. You casst guardian Charm, Dark Lord laughss at you, ssayss he iss not life-eater. Casstss Killing Cursse at you, you block, watcherss ssee Dark Lord explode—”
With Dumbledore out of the way, Harry becomes the unrivaled leader of the light side, which could make him quasi-king of magical Britain with some maneuvring. His power only increases as he gets older. Voldemort!Riddle enjoys watching Harry!Riddle do all the work, while he goes on a multi-decade vacation on a nice beach in the Caribbean.
Nice theory. But are you suggesting that the Death Eaters are going to witness Harry defeat Voldemort, then proceed to not kill Harry, and to go out and spread the word among the general populace?
“So, Lord Jugson, how did you happen to witness this extraordinary event?”
“Oh, I, uh, just happened to be passing by when I saw the Boy-Who-Lived duelling a returned Lord Voldemort. As did Lucius Malfoy and thirty or so of our mutual friends who had all been falsely accused of being Death Eaters last time. Err, excuse me, I think I left the kettle on...”
But are you suggesting that the Death Eaters are going to witness Harry defeat Voldemort, then proceed to not kill Harry, and to go out and spread the word among the general populace?
Do you really want to throw a killing spell when the last person who threw a killing spell died?
It will start with some of the Death Eaters simply apparating away, because they don’t want to be part of the mess.
The last ones who remain have a choice to offer Harry their allegiance.
Do you really want to throw a killing spell when the last person who threw a killing spell died?
Even if the Death Eaters would normally be too stupid to switch to their other lethal hexes (not guaranteed—Lucius, at least, has a respectable measure of intelligence), just now they’ve been instructed to apply a significant variety of countermeasures if Harry does anything. This greatly increases the probability of at least one of them thinking outside the extremely narrow AK box.
The last ones who remain have a choice to offer Harry their allegiance.
That’s still of limited use from a social capital perspective. Harry will have a devil of a time getting the remaining Light champions to align behind him if his first public recruits are Death Eaters. (and if they’re not public recruits, then the whole “spread the word” element fails and there’s no reason for the public to believe that Voldemort came back and was defeated again)
Putting Harry into political power was certainly part of the original plan (spelled out by Quirrel in parseltongue, even), although I’m not sure if the rest of the original plan was “make Harry do all the work” (in which case why constantly try to make him less altruistic?) or “possess Harry and enjoy that power”.
I’d assume the new plan must revolve more around “stop Harry from ripping apart the stars and ending the world”, and indeed Voldemort confirms “all I have done, iss to ssmassh that desstiny at every point of intervention”. But you’d think the new plan wouldn’t be “1. Make it possible to kill Harry. 2. Leave Harry with his wand and tell him not to interfere with next moves. 3. ???” it would be “1. Make it possible to kill Harry. 2. Kill Harry.”
(Random aside: we have someone named “Jossed” coming up with theories about fan fiction? That’s marvelous. Or possibly morfinous; I’ve heard a rational world wouldn’t have conveniently-coincidental names.)
That’s what I thought as well, but giving Harry access to power presumably doesn’t help avert the whole tearing the universe apart prophecy thing...which is what makes this so confusing
Riddle Sr. doesn’t care to rule magical Britain, and will use this to rid himself of his Voldemort persona. Eventually he can reap the fruit of whatever magical research Harry!Riddle Jr. does, as well as have interesting challenges with him. I’m highly confident he doesn’t want to restart the wizarding war (which he couldn’t make challenging for himself no matter how hard he tried).
Pure speculation: similar to cannon, Harry will survive Voldemort killing him by coming back from Limbo (possibly the Riddle Horcrux Network).
Quirrell, chapter 65:
With Dumbledore out of the way, Harry becomes the unrivaled leader of the light side, which could make him quasi-king of magical Britain with some maneuvring. His power only increases as he gets older. Voldemort!Riddle enjoys watching Harry!Riddle do all the work, while he goes on a multi-decade vacation on a nice beach in the Caribbean.
The End.
Nice theory. But are you suggesting that the Death Eaters are going to witness Harry defeat Voldemort, then proceed to not kill Harry, and to go out and spread the word among the general populace?
“So, Lord Jugson, how did you happen to witness this extraordinary event?”
“Oh, I, uh, just happened to be passing by when I saw the Boy-Who-Lived duelling a returned Lord Voldemort. As did Lucius Malfoy and thirty or so of our mutual friends who had all been falsely accused of being Death Eaters last time. Err, excuse me, I think I left the kettle on...”
Do you really want to throw a killing spell when the last person who threw a killing spell died?
It will start with some of the Death Eaters simply apparating away, because they don’t want to be part of the mess. The last ones who remain have a choice to offer Harry their allegiance.
Even if the Death Eaters would normally be too stupid to switch to their other lethal hexes (not guaranteed—Lucius, at least, has a respectable measure of intelligence), just now they’ve been instructed to apply a significant variety of countermeasures if Harry does anything. This greatly increases the probability of at least one of them thinking outside the extremely narrow AK box.
That’s still of limited use from a social capital perspective. Harry will have a devil of a time getting the remaining Light champions to align behind him if his first public recruits are Death Eaters. (and if they’re not public recruits, then the whole “spread the word” element fails and there’s no reason for the public to believe that Voldemort came back and was defeated again)
Putting Harry into political power was certainly part of the original plan (spelled out by Quirrel in parseltongue, even), although I’m not sure if the rest of the original plan was “make Harry do all the work” (in which case why constantly try to make him less altruistic?) or “possess Harry and enjoy that power”.
I’d assume the new plan must revolve more around “stop Harry from ripping apart the stars and ending the world”, and indeed Voldemort confirms “all I have done, iss to ssmassh that desstiny at every point of intervention”. But you’d think the new plan wouldn’t be “1. Make it possible to kill Harry. 2. Leave Harry with his wand and tell him not to interfere with next moves. 3. ???” it would be “1. Make it possible to kill Harry. 2. Kill Harry.”
(Random aside: we have someone named “Jossed” coming up with theories about fan fiction? That’s marvelous. Or possibly morfinous; I’ve heard a rational world wouldn’t have conveniently-coincidental names.)
Upvoted for random aside.
Seems like this theory got jossed in chapter 113 …
That’s what I thought as well, but giving Harry access to power presumably doesn’t help avert the whole tearing the universe apart prophecy thing...which is what makes this so confusing
Hermione is intended to avert that.
This.
You beat me to posting this quote.
Riddle Sr. doesn’t care to rule magical Britain, and will use this to rid himself of his Voldemort persona. Eventually he can reap the fruit of whatever magical research Harry!Riddle Jr. does, as well as have interesting challenges with him. I’m highly confident he doesn’t want to restart the wizarding war (which he couldn’t make challenging for himself no matter how hard he tried).
Pure speculation: similar to cannon, Harry will survive Voldemort killing him by coming back from Limbo (possibly the Riddle Horcrux Network).