They’re using the word “conscious” to mean “awake”. People experience dreams; that’s consciousness. They even remember them; though that’s not necessary for consciousness. If no one remembered having dreams, we wouldn’t be talking about them now.
It might be possible that dreams are never conscious: It would be possible to have a dream, not experience it at the time because you’re not conscious, but have all the memories of it created, “remember” it later when you wake up, and experience it for the first time retrospectively, along with the illusion that you had been conscious at the time it happened.
That may be the normal usage, but it just assumes without evidence that sleepwalkers are not conscious. The explanation that they’re conscious but do not form long-term memories is just as good.
Since sleepwalking is an actual phenomenon, it doesn’t matter what the “conventional usage” is, only what the real thing’s like.
Perception is even less of a problem than consciousness. Anything with an input device that is not being ignored perceives things. Keyboards, mice, cameras, microphones, all sources of data capture from the environment qualify. If you define consciousness as perception, that just trivialises it further.
Edit: we ought to have a rigorous definition of consciousness before discussing whether such marginal cases are or are not conscious (or to what degree they are conscious). Since many books, like Consciousness Explained, tried to give a clear definition & explanation and still aren’t accepted by everyone, perhaps there’s no point in arguing about whether sleepwalkers are “conscious” or not as it will come down to different definitions.
As far as facts are concerned, and avoiding the c-word: brain activity during sleepwalking can apparently be quite high, since it includes whole subsystems working and reacting to the environment (walking around, using objects, dressing, driving...) This may be more than during (some? most?) dreams. But I am certainly not an expert.
It’s true that “consciousness” or awareness or what have you is much lower than during full wakefulness. In addition to not forming memories, sleepwalkers can’t pass for an awake person or hold a conversation, AFAIK.
This is just the conventional usage of the term:
“Sleepwalkers often have little or no memory of the incident, as they are not truly conscious.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleepwalking
They’re using the word “conscious” to mean “awake”. People experience dreams; that’s consciousness. They even remember them; though that’s not necessary for consciousness. If no one remembered having dreams, we wouldn’t be talking about them now.
It might be possible that dreams are never conscious: It would be possible to have a dream, not experience it at the time because you’re not conscious, but have all the memories of it created, “remember” it later when you wake up, and experience it for the first time retrospectively, along with the illusion that you had been conscious at the time it happened.
That may be the normal usage, but it just assumes without evidence that sleepwalkers are not conscious. The explanation that they’re conscious but do not form long-term memories is just as good.
Since sleepwalking is an actual phenomenon, it doesn’t matter what the “conventional usage” is, only what the real thing’s like.
Perception is even less of a problem than consciousness.
Perception is even less of a problem than consciousness. Anything with an input device that is not being ignored perceives things. Keyboards, mice, cameras, microphones, all sources of data capture from the environment qualify. If you define consciousness as perception, that just trivialises it further.
Edit: we ought to have a rigorous definition of consciousness before discussing whether such marginal cases are or are not conscious (or to what degree they are conscious). Since many books, like Consciousness Explained, tried to give a clear definition & explanation and still aren’t accepted by everyone, perhaps there’s no point in arguing about whether sleepwalkers are “conscious” or not as it will come down to different definitions.
As far as facts are concerned, and avoiding the c-word: brain activity during sleepwalking can apparently be quite high, since it includes whole subsystems working and reacting to the environment (walking around, using objects, dressing, driving...) This may be more than during (some? most?) dreams. But I am certainly not an expert.
It’s true that “consciousness” or awareness or what have you is much lower than during full wakefulness. In addition to not forming memories, sleepwalkers can’t pass for an awake person or hold a conversation, AFAIK.