We have no idea how much violence the blogger has actually experienced, but it might have something to do why they’re so concerned about it. I’m more than a bit surprised that they find SJ (?) circles so emotionally safe, but maybe they haven’t run into the nastier emotional attacks is a way that affects them personally.
I agree that violence by women against men is all too frequently treated as funny—in popular art as well privately. Is there anyone here who follows popular art enough to have an opinion about whether this has changed and in what direction?
I think violence against men by women not being taken seriously is partly sexism against women—an idea that women aren’t strong enough to do real damage. The other half of the problem (this is probably obvious to you) is a highly mistaken belief about how tough men ought to be.
It seems to me that a certain sort of violence by women against men was a common trope some decades ago—perhaps other people can tell me whether it’s still popular.
He says something obnoxious. She hits him, and not with a slap—with a solid punch coming up from the ground. Big laugh from the audience. Rather implausibly, he isn’t injured and he doesn’t retaliate.
Though on second examination, that to be looks more about the sight gag than the violence dynamic. Armor-Piercing Slap (warning: TV Tropes) can include violence, but all it requires is humiliation, contra NancyLebovitz’s description.
We have no idea how much violence the blogger has actually experienced, but it might have something to do why they’re so concerned about it. I’m more than a bit surprised that they find SJ (?) circles so emotionally safe, but maybe they haven’t run into the nastier emotional attacks is a way that affects them personally.
I agree that violence by women against men is all too frequently treated as funny—in popular art as well privately. Is there anyone here who follows popular art enough to have an opinion about whether this has changed and in what direction?
I think violence against men by women not being taken seriously is partly sexism against women—an idea that women aren’t strong enough to do real damage. The other half of the problem (this is probably obvious to you) is a highly mistaken belief about how tough men ought to be.
Sometimes violence by men against men is portrayed as funny, too.
Violence by men against women portrayed as funny isn’t as common but there are still some classic examples.
Violence by women against women is another trope entirely.
Monty Python and the Holy Grail: 1975
Airplane: 1980
It seems to me that a certain sort of violence by women against men was a common trope some decades ago—perhaps other people can tell me whether it’s still popular.
He says something obnoxious. She hits him, and not with a slap—with a solid punch coming up from the ground. Big laugh from the audience. Rather implausibly, he isn’t injured and he doesn’t retaliate.
Monty Python was the example of men vs men. The examples of women against men were Airplane (1980) and Repo! The Genetic Opera (2008).
Those were examples of men against women being funny.
Oops...but now I don’t know why Nancy was giving dates.
Maybe to show that things have changed somewhat? Repo the Genetic Opera is something of an unusual movie, but it’s more recent than Airplane! is.
As you might expect, there’s a trope for this. (caution: TVTropes link)
Judging from the examples, the answer is “yes”, although I don’t know comedy well enough to say whether these are truly representative.
This trope might be closer.
I knew there was something I was forgetting.
Though on second examination, that to be looks more about the sight gag than the violence dynamic. Armor-Piercing Slap (warning: TV Tropes) can include violence, but all it requires is humiliation, contra NancyLebovitz’s description.