Yeah, generally when competent people hear a new word (e.g. AI Alignment, Effective Altruism, etc), they go to wikipedia to get a first impression overview of what it’s all about.
When you look at it like that, lots of pages e.g. Nick Bostrom and Effective Altruism, seem to have been surprisingly efficiently vandalized to inoculate new people against longtermism and EA, whereas Eliezer Yudkowsky and MIRI are basically fine.
EDIT: I didn’t mean to imply anything against Yud or MIRI here, I was being absentminded, and if I was paying more attention to that sort of thing at the time I wrote that, I would have went and found a non-Yud third example of a wikipedia article that was fine (which is most wikipedia articles). In fact, I strongly think that if Yud and MIRI are being hated on by the forces of evil, people should mitigate/reject that by supporting them, and label/remember the people who personally gained status by hopping on the hate train.
Skimming the Nick Bostrom and Effective Altruism Wikipedia pages, there doesn’t seem to be anything particularly wrong with them, certainly not anything that I would consider vandalism. What do you see as wrong with those articles?
Yeah, generally when competent people hear a new word (e.g. AI Alignment, Effective Altruism, etc), they go to wikipedia to get a first impression overview of what it’s all about.
When you look at it like that, lots of pages e.g. Nick Bostrom and Effective Altruism, seem to have been surprisingly efficiently vandalized to inoculate new people against longtermism and EA, whereas Eliezer Yudkowsky and MIRI are basically fine.
EDIT: I didn’t mean to imply anything against Yud or MIRI here, I was being absentminded, and if I was paying more attention to that sort of thing at the time I wrote that, I would have went and found a non-Yud third example of a wikipedia article that was fine (which is most wikipedia articles). In fact, I strongly think that if Yud and MIRI are being hated on by the forces of evil, people should mitigate/reject that by supporting them, and label/remember the people who personally gained status by hopping on the hate train.
Skimming the Nick Bostrom and Effective Altruism Wikipedia pages, there doesn’t seem to be anything particularly wrong with them, certainly not anything that I would consider vandalism. What do you see as wrong with those articles?
Likely referring to the “Racist e-mail controversy” section on Bostrom and the pervasive FTX and Bankman-Fried references throughout the EA article.