I could never have learned to ride a bike without my parents spending hours and hours trying to teach me.
Maybe there’s a cultural difference, but I don’t know what country you’re in (or were in). I’ve never heard of anyone learning to ride a bike except by riding it. But clearly we need some evidence. I don’t care for the bodge of using karma to conduct a poll, so I’ll just ask anyone reading this who can ride a bicycle to post a reply to this comment saying how they learned, and in what country. “Taught” should mean active instruction, something more than just someone being around to provide comfort for scrapes and to keep children out of traffic until they’re ready.
Results so far:
RichardKennaway: self-taught as adult, late 70′s, UK
Morendil: taught in childhood by grandfather, UK?
Blueberry: taught in childhood by parents, where?
So that’s two to one against my current view, but those replies may be biased: other self-taught people will not have had as strong a reason to post agreement.
I dont’t know how much this will support your position, but: mid 1980s, Texas, USA, by my father.
And as I said above, it did take a while to learn, but afterward, my reaction was, “Wait—all I have to do is keep in motion and I won’t fall over. Why didn’t he just say that all along?” That began my long history of encountering people who overestimate the difficulty of, or fail to simplify the process to teaching or justifying something.
ETA: Also, I haven’t ridden a bike in over 15 years, so that might be a good test of whether my “just keep in motion” heuristic allows me to preserve the knowledge.
Also, I haven’t ridden a bike in over 15 years, so that might be a good test of whether my “just keep in motion” heuristic allows me to preserve the knowledge.
The fact that ‘like riding a bike’ is a saying used to describe skills that you never forget suggests that it wouldn’t be a very good test.
Yeah, I wasn’t so sure it would be a good test. Still, I’m not sure how well the “you don’t forget how to learn a bike” hypothesis is tested, nor how much of its unforgettability is due to the simplicity of the key insights.
I don’t disagree, but there’s typically a barrier, increasing with time since last use, that must be overcome to re-access that kinesthetic knowledge. And think verbal heuristics like the one I gave can greatly shorten the time you need to complete this process.
early 90s, US. I also had training wheels for a while first, which didn’t actually teach me anything. I didn’t learn until they were removed. And I also had someone running along for reassurance.
Canada, mid 1960s. Brother tried to teach me but I mostly ignored him. Used bike with training wheels, which I raised higher and higher and removed completely after a couple of weeks.
United States, early 60s (I think it’s worth mentioning when because cultures change), just given a bike with training wheels, and I figured it out myself.
There’s some variation in method of instruction. My grandpa had fitted my bike with a long handle in the back and used that to help me balance after taking the training wheels off. With one of my kids I tried the method of gradually lifting the training wheels to make the balance more precarious over time. One of the other two just “got it”, as I remember, in one or two sessions. Otherwise it was the standard riding down a slight slope and advising them “keep your feet on the pedals”, and running alongside for reassurance.
Maybe there’s a cultural difference, but I don’t know what country you’re in (or were in). I’ve never heard of anyone learning to ride a bike except by riding it. But clearly we need some evidence. I don’t care for the bodge of using karma to conduct a poll, so I’ll just ask anyone reading this who can ride a bicycle to post a reply to this comment saying how they learned, and in what country. “Taught” should mean active instruction, something more than just someone being around to provide comfort for scrapes and to keep children out of traffic until they’re ready.
Results so far:
RichardKennaway: self-taught as adult, late 70′s, UK
Morendil: taught in childhood by grandfather, UK?
Blueberry: taught in childhood by parents, where?
So that’s two to one against my current view, but those replies may be biased: other self-taught people will not have had as strong a reason to post agreement.
I dont’t know how much this will support your position, but: mid 1980s, Texas, USA, by my father.
And as I said above, it did take a while to learn, but afterward, my reaction was, “Wait—all I have to do is keep in motion and I won’t fall over. Why didn’t he just say that all along?” That began my long history of encountering people who overestimate the difficulty of, or fail to simplify the process to teaching or justifying something.
ETA: Also, I haven’t ridden a bike in over 15 years, so that might be a good test of whether my “just keep in motion” heuristic allows me to preserve the knowledge.
The fact that ‘like riding a bike’ is a saying used to describe skills that you never forget suggests that it wouldn’t be a very good test.
Yeah, I wasn’t so sure it would be a good test. Still, I’m not sure how well the “you don’t forget how to learn a bike” hypothesis is tested, nor how much of its unforgettability is due to the simplicity of the key insights.
Most people don’t store the insights of bike riding verbally—the insights are stored kinesthetically. It seems to be much easier to forget math.
I don’t disagree, but there’s typically a barrier, increasing with time since last use, that must be overcome to re-access that kinesthetic knowledge. And think verbal heuristics like the one I gave can greatly shorten the time you need to complete this process.
early 90s, US. I also had training wheels for a while first, which didn’t actually teach me anything. I didn’t learn until they were removed. And I also had someone running along for reassurance.
Canada, mid 1960s. Brother tried to teach me but I mostly ignored him. Used bike with training wheels, which I raised higher and higher and removed completely after a couple of weeks.
United States, early 60s (I think it’s worth mentioning when because cultures change), just given a bike with training wheels, and I figured it out myself.
France, but close enough. ;)
There’s some variation in method of instruction. My grandpa had fitted my bike with a long handle in the back and used that to help me balance after taking the training wheels off. With one of my kids I tried the method of gradually lifting the training wheels to make the balance more precarious over time. One of the other two just “got it”, as I remember, in one or two sessions. Otherwise it was the standard riding down a slight slope and advising them “keep your feet on the pedals”, and running alongside for reassurance.