I think the kind of manipulation you have in mind is bypassing the human’s rational deliberation, which is an important one. This is roughly what I have in mind when I say “covert influence”.
So in response to your first comment: given that the above can be properly defined, there should also be a distinction between using and not using covert influence?
Whether manipulation can be defined as penetration of a Markov blanket, it’s possible. I think my main question is how much it adds to the analysis, to characterise it in terms of a Markov blanket. Because it’s non-trivial to define the membrane variable, in a way that information that “covertly” passes through my eyes and ears bypasses the membrane, while other information is mediated by the membrane.
I see, thanks for the careful explanation.
I think the kind of manipulation you have in mind is bypassing the human’s rational deliberation, which is an important one. This is roughly what I have in mind when I say “covert influence”.
So in response to your first comment: given that the above can be properly defined, there should also be a distinction between using and not using covert influence?
Whether manipulation can be defined as penetration of a Markov blanket, it’s possible. I think my main question is how much it adds to the analysis, to characterise it in terms of a Markov blanket. Because it’s non-trivial to define the membrane variable, in a way that information that “covertly” passes through my eyes and ears bypasses the membrane, while other information is mediated by the membrane.
The SEP article does a pretty good job at spelling out the many different forms manipulation can take https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ethics-manipulation/