See, it is on the front page of HackerNews now, all over Reddit. I’m the person who books guests for Joshua’s meetups, and I feel like this is a sort of defection against Altman and future attendees of the meetup. As I said, I think notes are fine and sharing them privately is fine but publishing on the open web vastly increases the probability of some journalist writing a click-bait story about your paraphrased take of what Altman said.
Actually attending the meetups was a trivial inconvenience that reduced the probability of this occurring. Perhaps the damage is now done, but I really don’t feel right about this.
I take some responsibility for not being explicit about not publishing notes on the web, for whatever reason this was not a problem last time.
For what it’s worth, I took notes on the event and did not share them publicly because it was pretty clear to me doing so would have been a defection, even though it was implicit. Obviously, just because it was clear to me doesn’t mean it was clear to everyone but I thought it still made sense to share this as a data point in favor of “very well known person doing a not recorded meetup” implying “don’t post and promote your notes publicly.”
I am also disappointed to see that this post is so highly upvoted and positively commented upon despite:
Presumably others were aware of the fact that the meetup was not supposed to be recorded and LW is supposedly characteristically aware of coordination problems/defection/impact on incentives. At least to me, it seems likely that in expectation this post spreading widely would make Sam and people like him less likely to speak at future events and less trustworthy of the community that hosted the event. This seems not worth the benefit of having the notes posted given that people who were interested could have attended the event or asked someone about it privately.
As Sean McCarthy and others pointed out, there were some at best misleading portrayals of what Altman said during his Q&A.
I strong upvoted it initially when I assumed the state of affairs was “nobody had done the work to make a recording+transcript, so this post is helping out”. Then I switched to strong downvote when I read Bjartur’s comment saying Sam had requested no transcript or recording.
I was the one who first shared the notes on reddit. Unfortunately, I did not know that recording the speech was against the wishes of Sam Altman, but I should have checked why there was no recording (at the time I simply thought that no one bothered to do it). I’m sorry, fwiw I deleted the post.
See, it is on the front page of HackerNews now, all over Reddit. I’m the person who books guests for Joshua’s meetups, and I feel like this is a sort of defection against Altman and future attendees of the meetup. As I said, I think notes are fine and sharing them privately is fine but publishing on the open web vastly increases the probability of some journalist writing a click-bait story about your paraphrased take of what Altman said.
Actually attending the meetups was a trivial inconvenience that reduced the probability of this occurring. Perhaps the damage is now done, but I really don’t feel right about this.
I take some responsibility for not being explicit about not publishing notes on the web, for whatever reason this was not a problem last time.
For what it’s worth, I took notes on the event and did not share them publicly because it was pretty clear to me doing so would have been a defection, even though it was implicit. Obviously, just because it was clear to me doesn’t mean it was clear to everyone but I thought it still made sense to share this as a data point in favor of “very well known person doing a not recorded meetup” implying “don’t post and promote your notes publicly.”
I am also disappointed to see that this post is so highly upvoted and positively commented upon despite:
Presumably others were aware of the fact that the meetup was not supposed to be recorded and LW is supposedly characteristically aware of coordination problems/defection/impact on incentives. At least to me, it seems likely that in expectation this post spreading widely would make Sam and people like him less likely to speak at future events and less trustworthy of the community that hosted the event. This seems not worth the benefit of having the notes posted given that people who were interested could have attended the event or asked someone about it privately.
As Sean McCarthy and others pointed out, there were some at best misleading portrayals of what Altman said during his Q&A.
I strong upvoted it initially when I assumed the state of affairs was “nobody had done the work to make a recording+transcript, so this post is helping out”. Then I switched to strong downvote when I read Bjartur’s comment saying Sam had requested no transcript or recording.
That makes sense.
I was the one who first shared the notes on reddit. Unfortunately, I did not know that recording the speech was against the wishes of Sam Altman, but I should have checked why there was no recording (at the time I simply thought that no one bothered to do it). I’m sorry, fwiw I deleted the post.