Latest time I read the literature (1-2 years ago) this was also my conception. If I remember correctly then the predictability of nobel price winners based on their IQ was very low conditional on if they had above 130 IQ. I think conscientousness and creativity were described generally more predictive for gettibg a nobel prize at higher IQs.
(fyi; creativity is quite hard to measure as it is a complex topic. Huberman has a great episode on the mechanisms behind creativity from December)
I do however, also want to mention that there probably exists a “package” that makes someone very capable where genius is part of it. I just think that IQ is overhyped when it comes to predicting this.
There is a lot going on with Nobel prize winners. The most common trait is that they work extremely hard. There have been 40-something g-loaded subtasks that I know of. It’s quite possible that they have an exceptional “recipe” of sub-abilities from these elemental cognitive abilities that won’t show up on a traditional WAIS IV.
But this is to be expected; the primary purpose of IQ testing is (1) to measure cognitive decline or some other kind of medical concern and/or (2) to determine which children go into gifted programs. Adult IQ is rarely tested outside of these settings, yet it is also where people try to draw the most generalizations.
(The reason you can infer that IQ tests aren’t meant to be as much of a measure of ability as they are to do these other two things is because so few safeguards are put in place to prevent cheating. With enough money it is quite possible to retake an IQ test and get 140+; you can even google the answers if you want. They really don’t care. Meanwhile, the SAT is psychotic about cheating and the people who have successfully cheated had to pull off preposterous schemes to do it.)
Latest time I read the literature (1-2 years ago) this was also my conception. If I remember correctly then the predictability of nobel price winners based on their IQ was very low conditional on if they had above 130 IQ. I think conscientousness and creativity were described generally more predictive for gettibg a nobel prize at higher IQs.
(fyi; creativity is quite hard to measure as it is a complex topic. Huberman has a great episode on the mechanisms behind creativity from December)
I do however, also want to mention that there probably exists a “package” that makes someone very capable where genius is part of it. I just think that IQ is overhyped when it comes to predicting this.
There is a lot going on with Nobel prize winners. The most common trait is that they work extremely hard. There have been 40-something g-loaded subtasks that I know of. It’s quite possible that they have an exceptional “recipe” of sub-abilities from these elemental cognitive abilities that won’t show up on a traditional WAIS IV.
But this is to be expected; the primary purpose of IQ testing is (1) to measure cognitive decline or some other kind of medical concern and/or (2) to determine which children go into gifted programs. Adult IQ is rarely tested outside of these settings, yet it is also where people try to draw the most generalizations.
(The reason you can infer that IQ tests aren’t meant to be as much of a measure of ability as they are to do these other two things is because so few safeguards are put in place to prevent cheating. With enough money it is quite possible to retake an IQ test and get 140+; you can even google the answers if you want. They really don’t care. Meanwhile, the SAT is psychotic about cheating and the people who have successfully cheated had to pull off preposterous schemes to do it.)