I didn’t downvote but am tempted to now given that the quote of Rand is nonsense and you are doing the ‘Hivemind’ defense of it. I still haven’t. I must be in a good mood normally; normally I’d go all downvote Roman on you.
Looking at your post now:
I would consider “acting confident” to be a variation of lying, as I’ve said many times, and as a rule utilitarian, I think lying is almost always bad.
NO! BAD! SILLY THINKING! NAIVE! GROW UP! DON’T ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO USE MODELS OF THE WORLD WHICH ARE SELF SABOTAGING. (These are examples of reasons why I would downvote the grandparent. I can’t speak for the reasoning of the actual downvoters.)
Would you care to support any of those assertions? Why is that quote nonsense? Why is that model self sabotaging?
I disagree on both counts. Although I don’t find myself in line with Rand on much, I do find her views on emotion being a product of rational thought, and not an opposing force to be quite agreeable.
As for that being a self sabotaging strategy, I think it is far more damaging to pretend that we don’t feel a certain way than to analyze why we feel that way, so that we can correct our emotions. (You have also failed to define what you mean by self sabotaging—there are ways that, depending on your utility functions for things like “intrinsic truth” that would change.)
Would you care to support any of those assertions? Why is that quote nonsense? Why is that model self sabotaging?
No. You (feigned that you were) interested in why you were downvoted and I gave some guesses based on why I would have downvoted were it the case that I was such a downvoter. “Convince RobertLumley that the downvoters are justified” is a different task, which I haven’t taken up.
With respect to the philosophy behind “acting” confident I have a similar postition to that of HughRistik who discusses the topic from time to time. (Searching ‘HughRistik acting confident social’ would probably find it.)
That’s quite a leap to assume I was feigning interest. And frankly, it seems quite rude for you to do so when I’m following common LessWrong practice.
However, it can feel really irritating to get downvoted, especially if one doesn’t know why. It happens to all of us sometimes, and it’s perfectly acceptable to ask for an explanation. (Sometimes it’s the unwritten LW etiquette; we have different norms than other forums.)
I was, am, and will continue to be (since no one has responded) very interested in why people thought that post was of poor quality. In fact, in my request, I considered leaving out the part about Rand, but did not, because it was what I was thinking—it would be quite hypocritical for me not to be honest about it, given the context.
Any chance people could explain their downvotes? I felt, and still do, this was one of my better posts.
I can’t help but wonder if it wasn’t a reaction of the hive mind against Rand...
I didn’t downvote but am tempted to now given that the quote of Rand is nonsense and you are doing the ‘Hivemind’ defense of it. I still haven’t. I must be in a good mood normally; normally I’d go all downvote Roman on you.
Looking at your post now:
NO! BAD! SILLY THINKING! NAIVE! GROW UP! DON’T ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO USE MODELS OF THE WORLD WHICH ARE SELF SABOTAGING. (These are examples of reasons why I would downvote the grandparent. I can’t speak for the reasoning of the actual downvoters.)
Would you care to support any of those assertions? Why is that quote nonsense? Why is that model self sabotaging?
I disagree on both counts. Although I don’t find myself in line with Rand on much, I do find her views on emotion being a product of rational thought, and not an opposing force to be quite agreeable.
As for that being a self sabotaging strategy, I think it is far more damaging to pretend that we don’t feel a certain way than to analyze why we feel that way, so that we can correct our emotions. (You have also failed to define what you mean by self sabotaging—there are ways that, depending on your utility functions for things like “intrinsic truth” that would change.)
No. You (feigned that you were) interested in why you were downvoted and I gave some guesses based on why I would have downvoted were it the case that I was such a downvoter. “Convince RobertLumley that the downvoters are justified” is a different task, which I haven’t taken up.
With respect to the philosophy behind “acting” confident I have a similar postition to that of HughRistik who discusses the topic from time to time. (Searching ‘HughRistik acting confident social’ would probably find it.)
That’s quite a leap to assume I was feigning interest. And frankly, it seems quite rude for you to do so when I’m following common LessWrong practice.
I was, am, and will continue to be (since no one has responded) very interested in why people thought that post was of poor quality. In fact, in my request, I considered leaving out the part about Rand, but did not, because it was what I was thinking—it would be quite hypocritical for me not to be honest about it, given the context.