Hmm, odd you draw that conclusion, because I’m not a vegan, though I have tried and continue to try to eat a plant-based diet, though due to a combination of dietary issues am often unable to. I think you’d also be hard pressed to say I’m a vegan advocate other than I generally think animals have moral worth and killing them is bad all else equal, but I’m not really trying to get anyone else to eat only plants.
Also, if you’re going to make a claim about me, please @ me so I can respond. I only saw this by luck, and I consider it pretty rude to make claims about someone on this site when you can easily tag them and then don’t.
All those specific points aside, this also seems like overgeneralization, since I’m not advocating in that comment not to seek truth, only to take a particular stance with how to communicate to people who are not so much interested in truth as what action to take based on the recommendation of experts. I don’t really like that the way humans have organized themselves requires communicating low-resolution things that obscure important details of the truth, but I do recognize that’s how our systems work and try to make the best of it.
[Edited to add:] Actually, it dawns on me now this comment makes even less sense because you’re claiming I said “extremely facepalm-worthy things about nutrition” yet I can’t recall ever having done so. We’ve only ever spoken in person a handful of times and mostly to make smalltalk. So I have no idea what you’re trying to do here.
Honestly, the more I think about it, the more your comment reads like libel to me: it’s making claims that defame me in various ways yet is totally unsubstantiated. Perhaps you’ve mixed me up with someone else? Either way, this comment is, in my opinion, in bad taste in that it makes claims against me, gives no evidence for them, and then tries to draw some conclusions based on seemingly made up evidence.
The thing I was referring to was an exchange on Facebook, particularly the comment where you wrote:
also i felt like there was lots of protein, but maybe folks just didn’t realize it? rice and most grains that are not maize have a lot (though less densely packed) and there was a lot of quinoa and nut products too
That exchange was salient to me because, in the process of replying to Elizabeth, I had just searched my FB posting history and reread what veganism-related discussions I’d had, including that one. But I agree, in retrospect, that calling you a “vegan advocate” was incorrect. I extrapolated too far based on remembering you to have been vegan at that time and the stance you took in that conversation. The distinction matters both from the perspective of not generalizing to vegan advocates in general, and because the advocate role carries higher expectations about nutrition-knowledge than participating casually in a Facebook conversation does.
I’ve struck out some of my comment above that, based on your reply, no longer makes sense.
We may still have other disagreements about other things, but your comment seems to break your claim that I’m a threat to truth seeking, so I’m happy to leave it there.
Hmm, odd you draw that conclusion, because I’m not a vegan, though I have tried and continue to try to eat a plant-based diet, though due to a combination of dietary issues am often unable to. I think you’d also be hard pressed to say I’m a vegan advocate other than I generally think animals have moral worth and killing them is bad all else equal, but I’m not really trying to get anyone else to eat only plants.
Also, if you’re going to make a claim about me, please
@me so I can respond. I only saw this by luck, and I consider it pretty rude to make claims about someone on this site when you can easily tag them and then don’t.All those specific points aside, this also seems like overgeneralization, since I’m not advocating in that comment not to seek truth, only to take a particular stance with how to communicate to people who are not so much interested in truth as what action to take based on the recommendation of experts. I don’t really like that the way humans have organized themselves requires communicating low-resolution things that obscure important details of the truth, but I do recognize that’s how our systems work and try to make the best of it.
[Edited to add:] Actually, it dawns on me now this comment makes even less sense because you’re claiming I said “extremely facepalm-worthy things about nutrition” yet I can’t recall ever having done so. We’ve only ever spoken in person a handful of times and mostly to make smalltalk. So I have no idea what you’re trying to do here.Honestly, the more I think about it, the more your comment reads like libel to me: it’s making claims that defame me in various ways yet is totally unsubstantiated. Perhaps you’ve mixed me up with someone else? Either way, this comment is, in my opinion, in bad taste in that it makes claims against me, gives no evidence for them, and then tries to draw some conclusions based on seemingly made up evidence.The thing I was referring to was an exchange on Facebook, particularly the comment where you wrote:
That exchange was salient to me because, in the process of replying to Elizabeth, I had just searched my FB posting history and reread what veganism-related discussions I’d had, including that one. But I agree, in retrospect, that calling you a “vegan advocate” was incorrect. I extrapolated too far based on remembering you to have been vegan at that time and the stance you took in that conversation. The distinction matters both from the perspective of not generalizing to vegan advocates in general, and because the advocate role carries higher expectations about nutrition-knowledge than participating casually in a Facebook conversation does.
I’ve struck out some of my comment above that, based on your reply, no longer makes sense.
We may still have other disagreements about other things, but your comment seems to break your claim that I’m a threat to truth seeking, so I’m happy to leave it there.