He probably was shy, and didn’t want to risk being shot down in front of people.
Citation needed.
Here is the original source text of ElevatorGate. (8-minute video, no transcription. Start around 3m15s to save 3m15s.). Here is her subsequent text response to comments.
I don’t see anything in there about the character of the man, only his actions. And even if his character was as you have imagined it to be, so what? Being wrong does not excuse being wrong.
I’m going to need a citation that supports your claim that I need a citation.
I’m not arguing that this must have been elevator-man’s motivation, but that not wanting to risk asking someone out in front of lots of others is a very common sentiment. I certainly remember the process of trying to ask a girl on a date in high school, and trying to find a moment alone was always a part of it. It’s certainly more reasonable than interpreting his actions as a form of intimidation.
I’m not arguing that this must have been elevator-man’s motivation, but that not wanting to risk asking someone out in front of lots of others is a very common sentiment. I certainly remember the process of trying to ask a girl on a date in high school, and trying to find a moment alone was always a part of it.
Everyone faces that problem. But even if this is a primary reason for the man’s actions (and I have seen nothing to favour the hypothesis), the man still found a really bad solution.
I explicitly said that it doesn’t matter whether that in particular was his motivation. There are a number of perfectly acceptable reasons for his behavior and I can think of several off the top of my head that are more plausible than “he was trying to intimidate her into having sex.”
I’m not arguing that this must have been elevator-man’s motivation, but that not wanting to risk asking someone out in front of lots of others is a very common sentiment.
Even if we grant this, it doesn’t affect the conclusion that Elevator Guy behaved unreasonably. The reason this particular incident attracted so much attention in the first place was because it involved such a perfect storm of disturbing/threatening factors. Each of these factors might have been considered quite mild when taken in isolation, but the problem was ‘death by a thousand cuts’.
Citation needed.
Here is the original source text of ElevatorGate. (8-minute video, no transcription. Start around 3m15s to save 3m15s.). Here is her subsequent text response to comments.
I don’t see anything in there about the character of the man, only his actions. And even if his character was as you have imagined it to be, so what? Being wrong does not excuse being wrong.
I’m going to need a citation that supports your claim that I need a citation.
I’m not arguing that this must have been elevator-man’s motivation, but that not wanting to risk asking someone out in front of lots of others is a very common sentiment. I certainly remember the process of trying to ask a girl on a date in high school, and trying to find a moment alone was always a part of it. It’s certainly more reasonable than interpreting his actions as a form of intimidation.
There are many places where you can talk to a person alone that aren’t elevators that prevent physical escape.
Everyone faces that problem. But even if this is a primary reason for the man’s actions (and I have seen nothing to favour the hypothesis), the man still found a really bad solution.
I explicitly said that it doesn’t matter whether that in particular was his motivation. There are a number of perfectly acceptable reasons for his behavior and I can think of several off the top of my head that are more plausible than “he was trying to intimidate her into having sex.”
Even if we grant this, it doesn’t affect the conclusion that Elevator Guy behaved unreasonably. The reason this particular incident attracted so much attention in the first place was because it involved such a perfect storm of disturbing/threatening factors. Each of these factors might have been considered quite mild when taken in isolation, but the problem was ‘death by a thousand cuts’.
Here you go. And this. HTH.
Supplying a complete text and video citation in direct response to a claim gets downvoted to −5? There’s some fucked up people here.