In the spirit of experimentation, I’m going to try giving up being oblique.
My primary motivation is not to do you a favor. My purpose is also not to protect neq1.
It is to convey that the purpose of this website is to work on thinking clearly, to some extent to further the creation of FAI, and also to improve skills at living. There’s also a little pleasant socializing.
However, insulting people (or having an atmosphere where insults are accepted) does not further any of the purposes of the site.
I believe that people generally think less well when they’ve been insulted. Also, I’ve been online for a long time. Insults are pretty much similar to each other—in other words, they’re noise, not signal so far as anything about the world generally is concerned.. They’re signal about emotional state and/or attempted dominance, but (as should be clear from the conversation so far), not a terribly clear signal.
What’s worse, insults are likely to lead to more insults.
I’m not a moderator, but I’m asking you not to dump hostility here.
Nancy, your beliefs about the average effect of insults on people do not seem to me to be a good reason to avoid bluntly telling people when they are behaving badly. IMO, you are not properly considering the positive effects of pointing out such bad behaviour. If someone behaves badly, and you don’t tell them, they don’t learn. Others might think their behaviour is acceptable. Still others might think you approve of their behaviour—and so on. It is not as though I had not tried all manner of rational argument first. Yes, people might be insulted or offended by someone else pointing out what is going on—if it reflects badly on them, but that is—ultimately—their business.
Not especially—and certainly not from my point of view. Alas, I found responding to your comments to be a waste of my time and energy. Especially so with your “oblique” comments. So, overall, I would rather you had not bothered commenting in the first place.
In the spirit of experimentation, I’m going to try giving up being oblique.
My primary motivation is not to do you a favor. My purpose is also not to protect neq1.
It is to convey that the purpose of this website is to work on thinking clearly, to some extent to further the creation of FAI, and also to improve skills at living. There’s also a little pleasant socializing.
However, insulting people (or having an atmosphere where insults are accepted) does not further any of the purposes of the site.
I believe that people generally think less well when they’ve been insulted. Also, I’ve been online for a long time. Insults are pretty much similar to each other—in other words, they’re noise, not signal so far as anything about the world generally is concerned.. They’re signal about emotional state and/or attempted dominance, but (as should be clear from the conversation so far), not a terribly clear signal.
What’s worse, insults are likely to lead to more insults.
I’m not a moderator, but I’m asking you not to dump hostility here.
In the spirit of experimentation, I’m going to try giving up being oblique.
My primary motivation is not to do you a favor. My purpose is also not to protect neq1.
It is to convey that the purpose of this website is to work on thinking clearly, to some extent to further the creation of FAI, and also to improve skills at living. There’s also a little pleasant socializing.
However, insulting people (or having an atmosphere where insults are accepted) does not further any of the purposes of the site.
I believe that people generally think less well when they’ve been insulted. Also, I’ve been online for a long time. Insults are pretty much similar to each other—in other words, they’re noise, not signal so far as anything about the world generally is concerned.. They’re signal about emotional state and/or attempted dominance, but (as should be clear from the conversation so far), not a terribly clear signal.
What’s worse, insults are likely to lead to more insults.
I’m not a moderator, but I’m asking you not to dump hostility here.
In the spirit of experimentation, I’m going to try giving up being oblique.
My primary motivation is not to do you a favor. My purpose is also not to protect neq1.
It is to convey that the purpose of this website is to work on thinking clearly, to some extent to further the creation of FAI, and also to improve skills at living. There’s also a little pleasant socializing.
However, insulting people (or having an atmosphere where insults are accepted) does not further any of the purposes of the site.
I believe that people generally think less well when they’ve been insulted. Also, I’ve been online for a long time. Insults are pretty much similar to each other—in other words, they’re noise, not signal so far as anything about the world generally is concerned.. They’re signal about emotional state and/or attempted dominance, but (as should be clear from the conversation so far), not a terribly clear signal.
What’s worse, insults are likely to lead to more insults.
I’m not a moderator, but I’m asking you not to dump hostility here.
In that case, I would recommend you shut up as soon as possible. If, as you said,
then stop wasting your time.
Thanks for your proposal about how to optimise my time management.
I think you are best leaving that issue to me, though—I have more relevant information about the topic than you do.
In the spirit of experimentation, I’m going to try giving up being oblique.
My primary motivation is not to do you a favor. My purpose is also not to protect neq1.
It is to convey that the purpose of this website is to work on thinking clearly, to some extent to further the creation of FAI, and also to improve skills at living. There’s also a little pleasant socializing.
However, insulting people (or having an atmosphere where insults are accepted) does not further any of the purposes of the site.
I believe that people generally think less well when they’ve been insulted. Also, I’ve been online for a long time. Insults are pretty much similar to each other—in other words, they’re noise, not signal so far as anything about the world generally is concerned.. They’re signal about emotional state and/or attempted dominance, but (as should be clear from the conversation so far), not a terribly clear signal.
What’s worse, insults are likely to lead to more insults.
I’m not a moderator, but I’m asking you not to dump hostility here.
Nancy, your beliefs about the average effect of insults on people do not seem to me to be a good reason to avoid bluntly telling people when they are behaving badly. IMO, you are not properly considering the positive effects of pointing out such bad behaviour. If someone behaves badly, and you don’t tell them, they don’t learn. Others might think their behaviour is acceptable. Still others might think you approve of their behaviour—and so on. It is not as though I had not tried all manner of rational argument first. Yes, people might be insulted or offended by someone else pointing out what is going on—if it reflects badly on them, but that is—ultimately—their business.
I’ve told you rather bluntly that I don’t approve of your behavior, though I think I’ve managed to avoid insulting your intelligence or character.
Do you think the world is a better place as a result?
Not especially—and certainly not from my point of view. Alas, I found responding to your comments to be a waste of my time and energy. Especially so with your “oblique” comments. So, overall, I would rather you had not bothered commenting in the first place.
I apologize.
In the spirit of experimentation, I’m going to try giving up being oblique.
My primary motivation is not to do you a favor. My purpose is also not to protect neq1.
It is to convey that the purpose of this website is to work on thinking clearly, to some extent to further the creation of FAI, and also to improve skills at living. There’s also a little pleasant socializing.
However, insulting people (or having an atmosphere where insults are accepted) does not further any of the purposes of the site.
I believe that people generally think less well when they’ve been insulted. Also, I’ve been online for a long time. Insults are pretty much similar to each other—in other words, they’re noise, not signal so far as anything about the world generally is concerned.. They’re signal about emotional state and/or attempted dominance, but (as should be clear from the conversation so far), not a terribly clear signal.
What’s worse, insults are likely to lead to more insults.
I’m not a moderator, but I’m asking you not to dump hostility here.
In the spirit of experimentation, I’m going to try giving up being oblique.
My primary motivation is not to do you a favor. My purpose is also not to protect neq1.
It is to convey that the purpose of this website is to work on thinking clearly, to some extent to further the creation of FAI, and also to improve skills at living. There’s also a little pleasant socializing.
However, insulting people (or having an atmosphere where insults are accepted) does not further any of the purposes of the site.
I believe that people generally think less well when they’ve been insulted. Also, I’ve been online for a long time. Insults are pretty much similar to each other—in other words, they’re noise, not signal so far as anything about the world generally is concerned.. They’re signal about emotional state and/or attempted dominance, but (as should be clear from the conversation so far), not a terribly clear signal.
What’s worse, insults are likely to lead to more insults.
I’m not a moderator, but I’m asking you not to dump hostility here.
In the spirit of experimentation, I’m going to try giving up being oblique.
My primary motivation is not to do you a favor. My purpose is also not to protect neq1.
It is to convey that the purpose of this website is to work on thinking clearly, to some extent to further the creation of FAI, and also to improve skills at living. There’s also a little pleasant socializing.
However, insulting people (or having an atmosphere where insults are accepted) does not further any of the purposes of the site.
I believe that people generally think less well when they’ve been insulted. Also, I’ve been online for a long time. Insults are pretty much similar to each other—in other words, they’re noise, not signal so far as anything about the world generally is concerned.. They’re signal about emotional state and/or attempted dominance, but (as should be clear from the conversation so far), not a terribly clear signal.
What’s worse, insults are likely to lead to more insults.
I’m not a moderator, but I’m asking you not to dump hostility here.