To continue the sex example, if the woman’s initial impression is negative, but the man gets her to want to have sex and afterwards she’s glad she did then he’s just good at attracting women, not a harmful manipulator.
Or, he’s a very good manipulator.
Or he’s very good in bed!
Or both of these are the same thing in his case!
Or, he’s a very good manipulator.
Or he’s very good in bed!
Or both of these are the same thing in his case!